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Am I a failure?!

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#1 ·
Am I a failure?

I bought a 2004 R1 thinking it would be a handful.

At least an iron fist in a velvet glove.

I love the thing don't get me wrong.

But I can't wheelie.

I reckon I could if I really went super duper stupid with the throttle.

But it has no inclination to get the front wheel off the ground!

I feel like I am on a bloody honda!

Help please!

Do I need to change sprockets?

I don't want to wheelie at 100km/hr all day. But a bit of venom makes life interesting, no?!
 
#3 ·
air filter, and a better exhaust should solve that, maybe power commander, cheaper to get sprockets, up two in the back maybe 1 down in the fron should get you in the power band pretty quick, r1s are geared to tall, they do it on purpose so we arent slapping our chins everytime out, but its not the optimum gearing for acceleration with the 1s power band,
 
#8 ·
how to wheelie?!

ok

confession time

i only wheelied my 600 once

i had a massive fight with the ex

it was either learn to wheelie or get in a fight

so i learnt to wheelie

as i recall...

open throttle to say 4000rpm
close
rip open throttle HARD

wheel comes up

use clutch to bring front down

am i wrong?

am i retarded?!
:confused: :confused:
 
#12 ·
I'll tell you I had a 03 R1 I could pop the front up at 4000rpm like nothing now with the 06 R1 I try and have to get to like 8000 just to get the front to lift alittle by then its time to shit (not to mention by then I'm doing like 90....lol. Man I miss that 03 What a bike.
 
#13 ·
The most comfortable way I learned was in 2nd gear, and be going about 65mph (I don't know the conversion to kmh right now) Then accelerate pretty hard to just over 70mph, and dump the throttle, meaning let off it so that the nose dives and before the engine even has time to make sucking noises through the exhaust, snap the throttle back on, probably about the same amount you've been trying. The initial snap is just to get the wheel to come up, and then you have to roll on the throttle to keep it up.

I was in the same boat as you. I thought I was giving it a lot of throttle and tried bouncing and all that, but I could barely get the front tire to even skip off the ground. Another thing is you have to WANT it to come up. You can't HOPE that it will come up. That's the only way you can get your subconcious to let your throttle hand give it enough gas. It's wierd, but it's true. Basically, grow some bigger balls. That's what I had to do. But I think one grew bigger than the other because I'm always leaning more towards the left side of the bike whenever I wheelie. :dunno
 
#14 ·
TheBFA said:
The most comfortable way I learned was in 2nd gear, and be going about 65mph (I don't know the conversion to kmh right now) Then accelerate pretty hard to just over 70mph, and dump the throttle, meaning let off it so that the nose dives and before the engine even has time to make sucking noises through the exhaust, snap the throttle back on, probably about the same amount you've been trying. The initial snap is just to get the wheel to come up, and then you have to roll on the throttle to keep it up.

I was in the same boat as you. I thought I was giving it a lot of throttle and tried bouncing and all that, but I could barely get the front tire to even skip off the ground. Another thing is you have to WANT it to come up. You can't HOPE that it will come up. That's the only way you can get your subconcious to let your throttle hand give it enough gas. It's wierd, but it's true. Basically, grow some bigger balls. That's what I had to do. But I think one grew bigger than the other because I'm always leaning more towards the left side of the bike whenever I wheelie. :dunno
try manuevering the bike by applying pressure on the pegs....that works for me
 
#15 ·
First gear power wheelies:

1) Take it up to about 7k rpm in first gear.
2) Simply give a small twist... if that doesn't work (it won't), try again, slightly larger twist same rpm.

You will pop it up. It will not be insanely fast. You just gotta reach down, grab a pair and do it. As soon as the wheel comes up, you'll likely throttle down and the wheel will come down instantly. Even if you go way back, get off the throttle and down comes the wheel. First few times, the wheel probably won't come up much because you're loathe to grab more throttle.

I can wheelie in first gear for about 10 seconds. Never could clutch up... and don't wanna screw up my clutch practicing... so... first is all I got. :(
 
#16 ·
I don't know about the new R1's but I just got my 02 R1 a few weeks back and bone stuck I could bounce them up in second. Still working on BP and riding them out for distance but this is what I do.

In second gear I get up to about 45 MPH, bounce twice, on the second bounce after everythings completely compressed and just about to rebound crack the throttle. The front wheel comes right up. Sounds easy but it takes abit of practice to get the timing down.

Hope this helps!
 
#17 ·
While sitting down, run about 55-60 mph in 2nd gear. Pull in the clutch and give the handlebars a good push down. as you finish pushing down, rev the engine to around 10-11k rpm's, then give the clutch a smooth dump. You want to be dumping the clutch right before the suspension starts coming back up. The suspension will aid in bringing the front up easier. After you dump the clutch, smoothly, hold it about a second, then you should be around balance point. Then you gotta let off the throttle some and start getting a feel of keeping it balanced. You would be amazed of how many revs you need to get it up to BP fast. But it can come up too fast as well. make sure you give the throttle a good twist as you let out on the clutch, then after the wheel comes up you need to get out of it. Practice makes perfect!
 
#22 ·
my 02 wheelied much easier might want to go to a 16 which is the stock 02-03 sprocket in the front and jsut take your time learning it's a little hard for me to get the 06 up ...i loved my 02 *****in thieves
 
#23 ·
Hello, my name is Drew and I suck at wheelies, too. :hellobye
 
#25 ·
Find a hill and have another go at it (going up :) ) The angle of the incline puts your weight further back and will make it a little easier.

Before long you will be telling the next guy on this forum who says his R1 wont wheelie that it is a piece of cake and that they ALL wheelstand.

Good luck.
 
#26 ·
i dropped a tooth in the front......i push my weight to the back of the bike get it up to arout 6000 rpms and just pull the clutch in just enuff to let the rpms to climb and let out the clutch out. it helps not to have a full tank of gas also......also cover the rear brake with your foot, if you feel like your going to loop press the brake a little it will bring the front end down. i have never heard of anyone using the clutch to bring the front end down.......also learning wheelies uphill is good too. just remember people have died trying this little stunt...and it is verry addicting!!!! the cops also frown on this....i know ive been caught doing 'em. but whatcha gonna do??.....good luck.