Talcott
First I would like to say that story makes me sick:ugh
I don't understand why dealers aren't stepping in and making sure that something is done. Yeah, their jobs are to sell bikes, but when was the last time you saw a dealer hard pressed to sell an R1. These things sell like a Carmen Electra clone in a trailer park (if there was such a thing). I don't think I have ever even seen an 02 R1 without a sold tag on it. Another thing is how in the **** did that guy figure that an R6 was too small for him. From the look of it he has never even riden before. And the research he did definatley wasn't from this forum. Well I guess the good side of thing is that when people like that wreck their R1 and die it will get rid of the earths undesirables. Fuckin' retard squid. God daaaaaamn. At the expence of a poor R1.:machinegu :bash :bash :ugh :ugh :finger
I don't understand why dealers aren't stepping in and making sure that something is done. Yeah, their jobs are to sell bikes, but when was the last time you saw a dealer hard pressed to sell an R1. These things sell like a Carmen Electra clone in a trailer park (if there was such a thing). I don't think I have ever even seen an 02 R1 without a sold tag on it. Another thing is how in the **** did that guy figure that an R6 was too small for him. From the look of it he has never even riden before. And the research he did definatley wasn't from this forum. Well I guess the good side of thing is that when people like that wreck their R1 and die it will get rid of the earths undesirables. Fuckin' retard squid. God daaaaaamn. At the expence of a poor R1.:machinegu :bash :bash :ugh :ugh :finger
At firs when I read the 00000 odometer drop I could´nt help laughing, but then the "squid-insurance-thing" grabbed me by the throat. Man, this is f*****-up shit. This is getting out of hand. But it seems like he had no riding skills what so ever. In Sweden you cant get a license without quite good skills. 
Had the same here in Scotland, dealership has two entrances with about 60 ft between them , well guy picks his new gsxr 1000 up and gives it gas on new tyres, ---lowsides it --then wheels it in next entrance , the only thing fast was how long it took to get around the local riders . So you get jackasses globally !!:iamwithst
That is why I am all for having the insurance agencies crack down and not insure young inexperienced riders on sport bikes. I think it is crap that I have to pay for other people's stupidity because they have to have the biggest/fast bikes that they are not even remotely capable of handling. What really drives me nuts is their parents actually let them get these bikes.
I value my life and started out on a Seca II, then stopped riding for a few years and got a new 98 Nighthawk 750. Moved to the ZRX1100 3 years ago and then stepped up to the R1.
I value my life and started out on a Seca II, then stopped riding for a few years and got a new 98 Nighthawk 750. Moved to the ZRX1100 3 years ago and then stepped up to the R1.
Just another "SQUID" Why do kids think they have to have the fastest and badest thing around. I think insurance co. should change their policy to exclude young inexperenced riders. They should have a CC limit and be required to take MSF. Then they should have several years of riding with no accidents to qualify for larger cc bike.
Thats just what I think!!! :rock
Why do kids think they have to have the fastest and badest thing around. I think insurance co. should change their policy to exclude young inexperenced riders. They should have a CC limit and be required to take MSF. Then they should have several years of riding with no accidents to qualify for larger cc bike.Thats just what I think!!! :rock
First off the insurance companies are doing something about it. If you read my first reply you see that they are trying to charge me 4000 to 8000 a year to insure my bike. Not once has there been a ticket on my record or has there been any accidents. I haven't once dropped my bike or even come close. You older guys on the other hand have many times by the looks of your posts. Just because I am young doesn't mean that I am incapable of good and safe riding. Yeah I will admit, the majority kids my age have no business out on the street with an R1 or any 1000cc bike for that matter, but there are acceptions. And this bullshit about being young and not being able to ride is the samething as you older guys with no experience doing the same. I have seen more than enough "oh I layed it down" post from all of you guys as well. I gurantee that I could stomp more than most of you assholes on the track. Being young doesn't matter. Go talk to Nikey Hayden I am sure he wouldn't mind giving you oldies some riding lessons. What it comes down to is idiots riding beasts.
Amen brother Swedie...
well said...
It just pisses me off when those "wannabe"s don't listen. Yeah its awesome to have a ncie bike but common!
I had 95 F3 and it was more than planty for me for my first bike!
I think it all comes to the type of person you are. You want to impress 16 year old girls then there is nothing that can stop a person like that from getting "the baddest" bike on the street...
But as for insurance. I think there should be some kind of a law or something. The dealers should also have some kind of guidelines when it comes to first time riders.
well said...
It just pisses me off when those "wannabe"s don't listen. Yeah its awesome to have a ncie bike but common!
I had 95 F3 and it was more than planty for me for my first bike!
I think it all comes to the type of person you are. You want to impress 16 year old girls then there is nothing that can stop a person like that from getting "the baddest" bike on the street...
But as for insurance. I think there should be some kind of a law or something. The dealers should also have some kind of guidelines when it comes to first time riders.
Maxxym I agree with you that this guy must be trying to impress someone, but the ironic thing about it is that almost all girls don't know shit about bikes. They couldn't tell a ninja 500 and a Busa 1300 apart. So this guy is wasing his time, money, and life to impress someone that would be just as impressed by an R6.
b turnerR1,
thats the insurance co. doing the wrong thing to fix a prob. Just like the rest of the world, "let's jump into the middle of the prob. and see if we can solve it". Back to basic math skills, you have to start at the begining to get the correct value for the end result. Raising the rates only hurts us and saves them money. The fix to the issue is to restrict or limit what young riders or inexperenced riders can ride. Yes you may not agree with this by your last post, about how bad you are. Novices dont need fast powerfull bikes they need what they can learn on. I started driving when I was 13 (car) dirt bike at 8- lived in the country. I could drive, but I couldnt get a license. Sorry, I had to live with it. it was the law. Thats what the states and insurance co. are going to have to do, or no will be able to insure the bike. I dont think we want that. You might be the exception to the rule but what about your friends. Yes I am older and I have put bikes down in the past. I have never filed an insurance claim. everytime it was my fault and being stupid. I payed out of my pocket. Just so my rate wouldnt go up. thas the funny thing I cant fix my bike,
I know!! Call Insurance!!! wow you get dropped and your rate go up and guess what so do ours. if there isnt another vehicle involved and you did it playing dont- claim it!! in the long run its cheaper and better for all.
for the sport to survive we have to set some limits to control accidents and lives.
thats the insurance co. doing the wrong thing to fix a prob. Just like the rest of the world, "let's jump into the middle of the prob. and see if we can solve it". Back to basic math skills, you have to start at the begining to get the correct value for the end result. Raising the rates only hurts us and saves them money. The fix to the issue is to restrict or limit what young riders or inexperenced riders can ride. Yes you may not agree with this by your last post, about how bad you are. Novices dont need fast powerfull bikes they need what they can learn on. I started driving when I was 13 (car) dirt bike at 8- lived in the country. I could drive, but I couldnt get a license. Sorry, I had to live with it. it was the law. Thats what the states and insurance co. are going to have to do, or no will be able to insure the bike. I dont think we want that. You might be the exception to the rule but what about your friends. Yes I am older and I have put bikes down in the past. I have never filed an insurance claim. everytime it was my fault and being stupid. I payed out of my pocket. Just so my rate wouldnt go up. thas the funny thing I cant fix my bike,
I know!! Call Insurance!!! wow you get dropped and your rate go up and guess what so do ours. if there isnt another vehicle involved and you did it playing dont- claim it!! in the long run its cheaper and better for all.
for the sport to survive we have to set some limits to control accidents and lives.
You are absolutely right brother Turner...
you can have a kanatuna and chick will still dig it...
you can have a kanatuna and chick will still dig it...
I actually feel sorry for the guy cuz he is the leading contender for the "jackass of the year" award:iamwithst
The dealer that I bought my R1 from told me that it happens more often than people think. On the day I got my bike some guy was pulling out an 02 R6 and went full throttle across traffic straight towards a wall until he slammed his front brake cuz he couldn't turn. The only reason he didn't lay it down was cuz he jumped off to hold the bike up. . .
as for the silver R1 w/00000.1 miles. . .wtf? cuz i couldn't even find a silver one left to buy?:no :machinegu
The dealer that I bought my R1 from told me that it happens more often than people think. On the day I got my bike some guy was pulling out an 02 R6 and went full throttle across traffic straight towards a wall until he slammed his front brake cuz he couldn't turn. The only reason he didn't lay it down was cuz he jumped off to hold the bike up. . .
as for the silver R1 w/00000.1 miles. . .wtf? cuz i couldn't even find a silver one left to buy?:no :machinegu
I think insurance companies should establish premiums according to age groups like here in Europe.
18 to 21 yr. old are statisticly riskier so they pay higher premiums. If you dont have an accident after 1 year, you go to a merit class & get a discount the next year. If you do have an accident then they raise YOUR premium the next year.
There are several age group categories, basically the older you are, the less you pay.
Its a bit complicated to explain but its pretty fair in its structure
It works on a bonus-malus principle & 6 age groups.
Say, you buy a bike for the 1st. time
This means you start at group 14
How much you pay now depends on,
Bike cc.
your age
where you live (some places are riskier than others)
If after a year you dont have an accident, you go to bonus & group 13. This means a discount for the following year cos youve been a good boy.
Next year again no accidents, so you get group 12- even more discount!
And so on & so on till you get to group 1 which means up to 60% or more discount cos youve been a good boy
BUT, here's the crunch, if you have an accident, you go back, say you were group 8, to group 10, for the first accident. Crash again & you'll drop to 13. ie. NO DISCOUNT !!!
IF YOU CRASH SAY, the FIRST year , you go to MALUS which means group 15 & say 10% INCREASE in premium.
Another crash the following year means group 16 or with some companies 17 with increases of up to 50 to 60%. Carry on & if you dont kill yourself (or someone), youll be paying DOUBLE or 2& half times MORE !!
At this point, unless you are a close relative of Mr. Rockfeller, the cost of running your bike will be to the very least prohibitive, leaving you the choice of quitting motor bikes or drastically changing your riding stile.
In my modest opinion, this is a pretty fair way to deal with the situation rather than now where everybody is paying for the mistakes of others.
What do you people think of this system ?
18 to 21 yr. old are statisticly riskier so they pay higher premiums. If you dont have an accident after 1 year, you go to a merit class & get a discount the next year. If you do have an accident then they raise YOUR premium the next year.
There are several age group categories, basically the older you are, the less you pay.
Its a bit complicated to explain but its pretty fair in its structure
It works on a bonus-malus principle & 6 age groups.
Say, you buy a bike for the 1st. time
This means you start at group 14
How much you pay now depends on,
Bike cc.
your age
where you live (some places are riskier than others)
If after a year you dont have an accident, you go to bonus & group 13. This means a discount for the following year cos youve been a good boy.
Next year again no accidents, so you get group 12- even more discount!
And so on & so on till you get to group 1 which means up to 60% or more discount cos youve been a good boy
BUT, here's the crunch, if you have an accident, you go back, say you were group 8, to group 10, for the first accident. Crash again & you'll drop to 13. ie. NO DISCOUNT !!!
IF YOU CRASH SAY, the FIRST year , you go to MALUS which means group 15 & say 10% INCREASE in premium.
Another crash the following year means group 16 or with some companies 17 with increases of up to 50 to 60%. Carry on & if you dont kill yourself (or someone), youll be paying DOUBLE or 2& half times MORE !!
At this point, unless you are a close relative of Mr. Rockfeller, the cost of running your bike will be to the very least prohibitive, leaving you the choice of quitting motor bikes or drastically changing your riding stile.
In my modest opinion, this is a pretty fair way to deal with the situation rather than now where everybody is paying for the mistakes of others.
What do you people think of this system ?
maybe the insurance companies should stop giving the crash clause to newbies with bikes over 600cc"s?
by the crash clause i meant you have 3 clauses:
theft/fire/vandalism
basic insurance
crash insurance
if they have enough money to repair the bike,then its on for them to kill themselves further down the road...
but it would open a door to stricter insurances which may not be a good thing in the end.
by the crash clause i meant you have 3 clauses:
theft/fire/vandalism
basic insurance
crash insurance
if they have enough money to repair the bike,then its on for them to kill themselves further down the road...
but it would open a door to stricter insurances which may not be a good thing in the end.
TerminatorR1 it was white purple and yellow...why?
oh yeah while we are on the subject of my old bike, check this out.
Next day after I traded it in, it was sold to some guy without any riding experience. So, he took it on the dealers parking lot, couldn't hold it or something like that, so bike went down and that douch gave it some gas and it just made a bike spin!!!
oh yeah while we are on the subject of my old bike, check this out.
Next day after I traded it in, it was sold to some guy without any riding experience. So, he took it on the dealers parking lot, couldn't hold it or something like that, so bike went down and that douch gave it some gas and it just made a bike spin!!!
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