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Cost's and resources for making TRACK?

1.8K views 33 replies 21 participants last post by  Texas Bullet  
#1 ·
whats up guys, i have this idea. To make a track some where near fort Hood but not to far. I just wanted to see if anyone has any ideas of the cost involved or resources required to make a track? I think it would be a profitable
idea, and would be sponsored by several businesses and mostlikely the army.

Ive never been to a track my self so i dont know how much it cost (can someone let me know). But i do know that military folk will line up to use the track. also if itll be the closest track people from austin, waco, temple and other near city's would also come. You can also set up refreshment and food stands in the track. and have a dyno people could use. not to metion that the city of Killen, cove, or belton would see profit from visotors.

So if anyone knows anything about this subject please put in to it thanks.
 
#7 ·
are you rich :dollar:epimp? if not you need to become friends with 2-3 rich business partners, in this day & age it would cost millions just to get it off the ground. good luck!
 
#8 ·
Not to mention it would be a several year proposition just to get all the designs, zoning, approvals, acceptances, etc.... just to get up to the point of starting site prep. It would be nearly impossible for an individual to do this.
 
#12 ·
Don't forget insurance. I've heard that it's the insurance that can easily shut down a track - the owners just can't afford it.

The only way we got our 1.3 miles POS track built was to have NASCAR and some driver endorse it...though I'm sure they gave a few mil in donations as well.

Bottom line, you need something other than track days to pay for it. Each track day will only gross you about 15-20k for the entrance fee's...and after you pay your staff, insurance and food if you provide it - you aren't making that much. So you need club racing and if possible pro racing - more than 2 wheels as well.

Oh...forgot maintenance - tracks and four wheels dont' get along. Just take a look at Mid America and what that **** tard of an owner is doing to that road course. Give it a few years and you'll want a dirt bike to ride it.
 
#13 ·
Wasn't Miller suppose to be a $8 million track or less and ended up being $80 million.

I know our (new) track Bluegrass motorsports was suppose to open up back in April but lost funding and its almost done. One of the other nearby tracks even held a trackday with the proceeds going to them to help finish it.

I would $1-2 million per mile of pavement plus all the other stuff, land, zoning, donations to political figures (read bribes).
 
#16 ·
:dunno College Station is less than 100 miles from Ft. Hood isn't it? I hear that isn't too bad of a track...
 
#19 ·
You'll have half a million invested before you even break ground. The environmental impact statement alone will cost 100-200k, then planning and surveying another 50k, the engineering firm will have the next go at you for a few hundred k. Permits and zoning will not be too expensive, but it will take forever, generally a year, before they will approve anything. The utilities will have to be brought to the location since you can't do this in a metro area.

A decent 1.5- 2 mile track will run you a couple million just for the asphalt. Site prep, curbing and drainage will be in addition to this. Pit roads,garages, a tower and restrooms will cost another mil or so. So, if you have about 5 million laying around you can get it started fairly easily, but expect it to take at least 2 years to complete if everything goes perfect. 4 years if everything goes like normal.
 
#20 ·
Oh, you left out a bunch of stuff. First of all you're going to have to grease the local politicians for the sudden zoning problems that always come up. Then there's the kickbacks to the carpenters, and if you plan on using any cement in this building I'm sure the teamsters would like to have a little chat with ya, and that'll cost ya. Oh and don't forget a little something for the building inspectors. Then there's long term costs such as waste disposal. I don't know if you're familiar with who runs that business but I assure you it's not the boyscouts.
 
#21 ·
My goodness, It's not happening in Chicago. It's Texas, a right to work state. Unions don't have much to say there. The whole politician thing is true. Building inspectors usually only cause trouble if you use out of town contractors.
 
#27 ·
It’ll cost you heaps, say you won the lottery then you could do it but if it’s something for the public then it’s going to be even worse. All the insurance, pit lanes, public amenities and stuff like that. You are looking at over 5-6 million. If it was for private use then you could get it done a bit cheap. Don’t plan on it look/ feeling anything like Phillip Island or Laguna seca, you’ll probably end up with something that would just pass as a track. Of course if you did it for your own personal use forget about charging people to use it (public liability and the such).
 
#31 · (Edited)
I once saw an interview with George Barber in which he stated he had 77m in his track and that is a top notch facility. I'll bet you could build something along the lines of Oak Hill Raceway in Henderson TX for a reasonable amount. Reasonable in terms of track building of course. They have no facilities, a simple garage/covered staging area and a simple grandstand area. Its a nifty little place to ride and really cool to look at the lap records written on the wall inside the garage. The list includes Freddie Spencer, Colin Edwards, Ben Spies, John Haner and Ty Howard to name the most notable. I will be going to race there in a couple of weeks and I'll get a picture of it and post it up.
 
#32 ·
A brand new, state-of-the-art kart track, PacificGP, was just finished @ the PIR motorsports complex in Kent, WA. I know the guy behind it. Keep in mind that it was being built on land that already had a road race course & so was zoned for such use. I think it cost ~$10M to build & took him ~10 yrs to work through the county politics. I don't even know what the operating costs are. Also keep in mind this is a ~1.3 mi, multi-config. kart track, & not a full-size road course.
 
#33 ·
new zealand has just finished hampton downs race track, i caught a bit on the news about it. not sure of dollars, but i remember them saying it took three years to wade thru all the paper work, concents and b/s. and just two years to make it.
 
#34 ·
If you're in the Fort Hood area try Harris Hill Road in San Marcos, TX. 11 turns and a shit pile of fun.

Hope this helps.

Good luck on all your endeavors