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debating between a newer r6 or r1

3.3K views 34 replies 19 participants last post by  MotoMillion  
#1 ·
Ok so I currently have a 2000 r6 it is my first bike and will have had it for a year in december. I have been thinking about upgrading some point early next year, I recently rode an 08 r6 and liked it, It just had no go under 9k rpms, and then last night I rode my friends 2007 modded r1 and am pretty sure I came 3 times on that thing it was so sexxy and fast. I have a couple questions/ concears and want your guys opinion.

#1 is there any reason to go that fast lol?
#2 is that to much bike for some one that is 5'10 175 lbs?
#3 I see some ppl down grading from a liter bike back down to a 600 why is that?

My riding habits, I am someone that likes to go fast and have fun but only in situations I know I can handle, I wont go guns blazing into a corner I will set my line get a feel for the corner and then throttle out of it usually passing my friends that went flying into the corner. I like to hit the twisties when i can which is really only once or twice a month. I can wheelie and stoppie but havent really done more stunting then that just like to ride. I have taken several passengers out and they have all said that they trust me more then most riders. So with that being said I feel like i am a fairly safe and cautious rider my friend trusted me with his r1 after him only owning it for a couple weeks and only having liability.

Bikes I am looking at to get would be an 06+ r6 or an 04+ r1 looking to spend $5 to $7k on a bike, so what are your guys oppinions?
 
#5 · (Edited)
1. Your not talking a whole lot of max speed between the two. The '06 and up R6 can top out at or near 170. How often do you run above 120? Other than short bursts.

2. I'm 5'10" maybe 155-160 and ran a '03 R1 for several years. It's not hard to handle, but I did notice how much lighter the R6 {'06} was to handle between the two.

3. I went from a YZF 600R to a R1 then to a R6. For me it's all about riding style. I find the 600's more fun to ride as you shift more. They are great to hone your skills and the bike really fits me. They are so flick able. I don't stunt and tend to do more track riding vs street. For me, I found my R1 to be a much better cruising bike with a fun top end rush.

I'd say stick with the R6 if your into fun aggressive street or track riding. If you ride with friends who like to play tag, do roll on's and fart around with speed then go for the R1. Keep in mind the R6 usually is more cheaper to insure {State Farm} than the R1 and you'll save a little money on rear tires 180 vs a 190. If you really have to have the top end rush then the R1 is probably the ticket. The '06 and up R6 are weak down low, but lights up around 12K and are a blast to ride. Not the best open road street bike.
 
#6 ·
Well IMO i would give your R6 another year or 2 to get more experience under your belt. Dont know how long you've been riding but less than a year on a bike being new to the game is no reason to upgrade. BUT....if you have to do it lemme answer your questions:

Is there a reason to go that fast? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! but its fun as hell.....

Is that too much bike? Im 5'8", 138lbs and im on an 04 R1 (and thats after a couple CBR 600F2s, a 96 CBR900RR, 2000 TL1000R) working on getting a new S1000r to add to the stable so you tell me......

As fas as the "downgrade" so guys a) dont like to cope with all the power on a daily basis, or b) like corner speed much more than top line speed

All in all make the safest, wisest choice (that means stick to a Yamaha!!!) and everything will be fine!!! GOOD LUCK on the selection!!!
 
#7 ·
I am not all about absolutly tearing up the twisties I will get on it and keep up but dont lead the pack, I do love to have open road and just get on it, and not just upgrading to upgrade, I have the cash to do so, I am looking for something fuel injected and i figure if I am going to be selling my bike and upgrade might as well do it right the first time since i can afford it
 
#8 ·
I just got rid of my 06 R6 for the 2010 r1. Both are a Blast. They are different and both are special at what they do. I love my Yamas - it is like deciding between the Blonde or the Brunette. Both are Fun. R6 gearing seems to need more shifting (and it screams). The R1 = less shifting but is very powerful. I am not an expert but get what will make you happy - you only live once :) Whatever you do - don't hide it from the wife!!!
 
#10 ·
lol my gf loves fast cars and bikes so I am in the clear there she has a pontiac g8 gt with bolt ons lol and i have a gto she loves going for rides on my r6 she doesnt care what kind of bike i get as long as it is a street bike and fun lol


its just hard todecide between the raw power or the ability to fly threw the twisties, with my gto I went with the raw power over a slower car that could handle well looking back on it would had gotten a c5 corvette or 03 cobra instead but still love my car and there is nothing like punching the gas and taking off
 
#13 ·
My first bike was a r6. Very fun to ride and learn. I then bought an r1, the power is amazing. I sometimes preferred the r6 because like someone said it's more fun shifting and zipping around on the streets. But ultimately, I'd go with the r1 because it has the power and it can be very very fun learning to handle that power
 
#16 ·
#1 is there any reason to go that fast lol?
#2 is that to much bike for some one that is 5'10 175 lbs?
#3 I see some ppl down grading from a liter bike back down to a 600 why is that?
1. no.
2. being 175 lbs has very little to do with it.
3. 600s are more fun for people that can ride. esp for track duty. i have a lot of seat time on my r1, but i'm looking for the right 600.

get a clean 07 or 08 cbr600rr. right in your wheelhouse
 
#18 ·
I have an 09 R1 (upgaded from a 2003 Suzuki SV650S, 3 years gap between selling the old and buying the new). I bought it because I love the Yamaha style and wanted to have the "top model" bike, and because the timing was right and I could afford it. I knew if I got the R6, I'd constantly be thinking of how awesome the R1 might be.

I do love the bike, but it's expensive. 2 exhaust outlets = 2 mufflers = twice the price for an exhaust almost. Plus other things with the bigger bike, tires, gas, etc. Also, I'm thinking about hitting the track soon and don't really want to do it on an R1, so now I'm thinking of picking up a 600 as a dedicated track bike.

After riding the R1 and becoming accustomed to it, I realize the bigger difference is preference. The R1 is great for the street with good power down low and plenty up top. But, not having ridden a racing 600, I think it may be a little more fun to shift more, rev higher, and flick around.

If I had my way though, I'd have a garage full of all of em, haha.
 
#21 ·
Only problem if I were to have a 600 and 1000 the gf would be like oh so now that you have two I can ride the 600, and she cant even drive a stick shift car I tried letting her drive my gto and she let off the clutch and let go of everything and yelled oh no its moving and i am not pressing anything what do i do, I said steer and she said she didnt know how lol but yet she wants to learn to ride a bike lol, I may try to talk my dad into going half on a r1 with me since he works out of state most the time and I could ride either one then lol
 
#22 ·
Only problem if I were to have a 600 and 1000 the gf would be like oh so now that you have two I can ride the 600, and She cant even drive a stick shift car. I tried letting her drive my gto. She let off the clutch, let go of everything, and yelled "oh no! it's moving and I am not pressing anything. What do I do?!"
she doesn't belong on a bike. if she does, she'll get one on her own. and it better be not be a 600.
 
#24 ·
I currently have a 09 r6 and a 07 r1 and if I had to do it all over, I would have stayed with the r6. More fun to ride but the only weird difference for me is I enjoy the r1 on the track due to it being more stable.
 
#25 ·
ANYONE THAT SAYS YOU SHOULD START OFF ON A SMALLER BIKE -

It hurts just as bad to crash on a 600 as it does when you crash on a 1000...


Back to the point on why getting a 1000cc bike is the way to go.. Or sticking to what YOU want to get..
 
#26 ·
ANYONE THAT SAYS YOU SHOULD START OFF ON A SMALLER BIKE -

It hurts just as bad to crash on a 600 as it does when you crash on a 1000...


Back to the point on why getting a 1000cc bike is the way to go.. Or sticking to what YOU want to get..


using your logic, the military should throw new recruits right into a f-22, they dont need to learn in trainer you know, cause if you **** up in a T38 its the same as ****ing up a f-22
 
#34 ·
many people are responsible enough and self-cautious enough to start on an R1, no doubt about it. Possible? Obviously. Wise? not so much. A bike that size is so much more capable of putting an inexperienced rider in a bad spot so much quicker than other bikes. Same goes for an R6 being that much more risky than a 250 when starting out, but you have to start somewhere. It's folly to think that the TOP of the pyramid is where to start. In essence, the smaller the bike, the more forgiveness you get if you make a mistake, giving you much better odds of surviving to learn from it. Look no further than the myriad of videos/links/stories of people buying brand new litre bikes and wadding them up within eyesight of the dealer. Show me where somebody rode off from a dealer on a 250 and did that anywhere near the same number of occurrences.