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HELP! Wheel Axle Nut Will Not Budge

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#1 ·
I tried to adjust the chain slack the other day and the rear wheel axle nut would not break loose. I have adjusted the chain many times and was sure that to loosen the nut it must be turned counter clockwise, but then I 2nd guessed myself and tried to loosen it by turning clockwise. Neither way would move at all. I tried loosening it with so much force that the aluminum stops on the other side started bending. Any help please!?!
 
#2 ·
WakeSlasher said:
I tried to adjust the chain slack the other day and the rear wheel axle nut would not break loose. I have adjusted the chain many times and was sure that to loosen the nut it must be turned counter clockwise, but then I 2nd guessed myself and tried to loosen it by turning clockwise. Neither way would move at all. I tried loosening it with so much force that the aluminum stops on the other side started bending. Any help please!?!
WOW! One question; Have you ever greased the axle" If not, there lies your problem. Use an impact gun if you can. Or rather than turning the wrench with a smooth motion, whack it with a mallet. The jolt should break it free.
 
#4 ·
Thanx for the advice... and no I have never greased the axel but was not aware that it needed to be. Where exactly should I grease it? I was planning on using some anti-seeze on the threads after getting the nut off but I dont think that is what you mean. However I am still worried about putting to much force on the axle. I put all my weight and force on the end of a 1ft breaker bar and it still didnt budge. Instead of the nut loosening the entire axel turned and bent the aluminum stop bracket on the opposite side of the swing arm.
 
#5 ·
when you put it back together ( if you ever get it apart) put anti-seize on the axle. coat the whole thing. the wheel bearings are sealed, but this way the axle wwon't rust to the bearings. it happened to me when i bought a used dirtbike one time and i had a hell of a time getting it out.
 
#6 ·
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you probably overthight the axle, it happen to my friend also, the axle threads got stripped, you gona need a strong impact gun to remove it, make shure you torque it to specs when you get a new one.:hellobye
 
#7 ·
WakeSlasher said:
Thanx for the advice... and no I have never greased the axel but was not aware that it needed to be. Where exactly should I grease it? I was planning on using some anti-seeze on the threads after getting the nut off but I dont think that is what you mean. However I am still worried about putting to much force on the axle. I put all my weight and force on the end of a 1ft breaker bar and it still didnt budge. Instead of the nut loosening the entire axel turned and bent the aluminum stop bracket on the opposite side of the swing arm.
Did you remove the cotter pin?
 
#10 ·
I did the same thing... I over tightened my axel, and it stripped the threads and thrashed the threads on the inside of the nut.

I bought 2 of them off ebay for like 50 bucks, so I do have an extra if you want it.

25 bucks plus shipping and I will send it to ya. It has the axel, nut, washer and both aluminum spacers (blocks). shoot me a email if you want/need it.

dblake@oaconsulting.com
 
#11 ·
I just did mine a few weeks ago and the nut was difficult to get off. I used the smack approach and it loosened up, but I didn't experience any bending on the stops.

For those that have stripped the threads, did you tighten them to spec (I believe it is 108ft-lbs).
 
#12 ·
If you do not have access to an impact gun and the mallot trick doesn't work, use leverage. In other words use a pipe or the biggest wrench you have or rig together whatever you can to get a long piece to turn. It is amazing what leverage will do.
 
#13 ·
yamahog said:
If you do not have access to an impact gun and the mallot trick doesn't work, use leverage. In other words use a pipe or the biggest wrench you have or rig together whatever you can to get a long piece to turn. It is amazing what leverage will do.
i would definitely try the leverage method. put a long pipe on the breaker bar and work from there.
 
#15 ·
I've got alike a 4 ft long pipe that I use, it's great, you can't believe the stuff you can get loose. Another thing that can be done, I don't know if this is any good for bikes but I know on my truck if I really can't get something I heat it with a propane torch and spray the crap out of it with like WD40 while it's still hot, that can help. Then when you do get it loose, go a couple of strokes looses, then tighten it back to clean the threads (assuming it's not stripped)
 
#16 ·
Well unfortunately it sounds like I have overtightened the nut. Thanx to everyone for all the advice. As soon as I get the nut off I am going to assess the damage...hopefully it is salvageable (threads not all stripped) Thanks to throtle-cntrl for the offer I will definately shoot you an EMail if Im needing that new axel.
 
#19 ·
Invest in a torque wrench! :hellobye

Don't know what year you have but for the 02s (and I would assume the 03s) torque specs are:
Front wheel axle nut - 65ft/lb
Rear wheel axle nut - 108ft/lb

I would assume that the 04s are similar but check the service manual to be sure.