I've put about 3000miles on my r1 now so im comfortable with it but i want to try wheelies how should i approch them nothing show stoping just nice small ones for now.
how to approch my first wheelie
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I've put about 3000miles on my r1 now so im comfortable with it but i want to try wheelies how should i approch them nothing show stoping just nice small ones for now.
assuming you're in a safe area, and have full gear on...
first gear, around 4500 rpm, give the throttle a bit of a snap, no more than 1/4 throttle.
you should feel the front unload.
if it doesn't come up, add a bit of throttle, or sharpness to your "snap", or a few more rpms say, 5000... and it should start to loft.
approach with caution, you could end up on your back before you know it
an almost empty tank makes a difference, as does moving your balls away from the tank just a bit.
that's about it... take your time... feel it.
second gear is also possible, but you'll need to be around 8000 rpm, and you're fairly flying.
first gear, around 4500 rpm, give the throttle a bit of a snap, no more than 1/4 throttle.
you should feel the front unload.
if it doesn't come up, add a bit of throttle, or sharpness to your "snap", or a few more rpms say, 5000... and it should start to loft.
approach with caution, you could end up on your back before you know it
an almost empty tank makes a difference, as does moving your balls away from the tank just a bit.
that's about it... take your time... feel it.
second gear is also possible, but you'll need to be around 8000 rpm, and you're fairly flying.
I dont have a R1 yet.. But as of what i've read on this board you should:
2'nd gear: 6500-7000 rpm, throttle on-off-on with a little bounce and / or sitting back at the seat it should come up for ya. Or you could clutch it up at 50-60 mph, pull the clutch in with 2 fingers halfway and rev the engine to 7000 rpm then let the clutch out smooth but fast..
Someone said 1st gear wheelies on the R1 is a no no.. At least it might be easier if you try and learn on 2'nd gear until u get the hang of it, 1st might be touchy. On my kawa i do on-off-on throttle at around 6000 rpms 1st gear, even on this bike (only a 600) it sometimes comes up fast enough to scare me..
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2'nd gear: 6500-7000 rpm, throttle on-off-on with a little bounce and / or sitting back at the seat it should come up for ya. Or you could clutch it up at 50-60 mph, pull the clutch in with 2 fingers halfway and rev the engine to 7000 rpm then let the clutch out smooth but fast..
Someone said 1st gear wheelies on the R1 is a no no.. At least it might be easier if you try and learn on 2'nd gear until u get the hang of it, 1st might be touchy. On my kawa i do on-off-on throttle at around 6000 rpms 1st gear, even on this bike (only a 600) it sometimes comes up fast enough to scare me..
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I started with the first gear wheelies... Just popping them up and sitting them down.. Until you find your balance... But... I didn't really think about 2nd gear wheelies then... ONce I started riding second gear wheelies... My first gear wheelies stopped being just pop ups.... Second gear wheelies are much smoother and it's an easier way to find your balance... I scared the shit out of myself doing a first gear wheelie.. Almost 12 oclock... I felt like I was gonna fall off the back... And it shook.. wheew... I didn't ride wheelies for a couple of weeks after that.. Then I started with 2nd gear... Now I'm trying to learn to stand up and ride it... In second though.. I get going around 65-70 in 6th.. I say 6th because if your in 5th and you forget you might drop it to first going that fast.. And that is a definate NO NO.... Too much torque... Anyway... Drop it to second at that speed and give it a lot of throttle.. But not too much.. I don't bounce them in second.. If I give it too much throttle in second even going that fast it pops up really fast and high... And I'm not a light guy either... 185ibs.. If you are having a problem with not keeping it up.. It's because you're getting nervous and letting off the throttle too much... Just let it off a little and keep your head up... Cover your rear brake!!! Have fun.... Be safe..:rock
I started with the first gear wheelies... Just popping them up and sitting them down.. Until you find your balance... But... I didn't really think about 2nd gear wheelies then... ONce I started riding second gear wheelies... My first gear wheelies stopped being just pop ups.... Second gear wheelies are much smoother and it's an easier way to find your balance... I scared the shit out of myself doing a first gear wheelie.. Almost 12 oclock... I felt like I was gonna fall off the back... And it shook.. wheew... I didn't ride wheelies for a couple of weeks after that.. Then I started with 2nd gear... Now I'm trying to learn to stand up and ride it... In second though.. I get going around 65-70 in 6th.. I say 6th because if your in 5th and you forget you might drop it to first going that fast.. And that is a definate NO NO.... Too much torque... Anyway... Drop it to second at that speed and give it a lot of throttle.. But not too much.. I don't bounce them in second.. If I give it too much throttle in second even going that fast it pops up really fast and high... And I'm not a light guy either... 185ibs.. If you are having a problem with not keeping it up.. It's because you're getting nervous and letting off the throttle too much... Just let it off a little and keep your head up... Cover your rear brake!!! Have fun.... Be safe..:rock
my unprofessional advice
I've read a million posts about riding wheelies...
but, you want to know what the truth is...forget about asking anyone else how to do it,
you can get good advise, but the only one who is going to have to eventually get out and learn to do it is you, and its going to take alot of time and practice, and no amount of advice is going to magically teach you to do it,
in the end, you'll be the one figuring how to clutch/bounce it up, how to balance, and how to keep it there, all on your own, and the only way to learn is to set your mind to it and get out and practice,
its frustrating at first, but it will come sooner that you think...
and dont expect to be riding 1/2 mile long wheelies on the first day, anyone that says thats what they did is feeding you a line, it just doesn't work like that...
I've read a million posts about riding wheelies...
but, you want to know what the truth is...forget about asking anyone else how to do it,
you can get good advise, but the only one who is going to have to eventually get out and learn to do it is you, and its going to take alot of time and practice, and no amount of advice is going to magically teach you to do it,
in the end, you'll be the one figuring how to clutch/bounce it up, how to balance, and how to keep it there, all on your own, and the only way to learn is to set your mind to it and get out and practice,
its frustrating at first, but it will come sooner that you think...
and dont expect to be riding 1/2 mile long wheelies on the first day, anyone that says thats what they did is feeding you a line, it just doesn't work like that...
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Just remember baby steps at first. Crawl before you walk and walk before you run, and when you learn to run mod the hell out of it and start over.
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if you never did a wheelie before and have no idea how it feels, try to accelerate on first gear really really quick. I mean.. gun it..and you will feel the front picking up nice and slow.
I been trying to get hang of the whole 1st gear snap wheelies and they are just too damn much for me. I practice 2nd gear clutch ups..
but if you just want to see what its like, just take off from the light really fast and she will loft right up...
I been trying to get hang of the whole 1st gear snap wheelies and they are just too damn much for me. I practice 2nd gear clutch ups..
but if you just want to see what its like, just take off from the light really fast and she will loft right up...
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Iam in the same boat you are. A month ago I was just getting the feel of the front wheel popping up and down a little when i goosed it at around 4.5 grand. after about 250 little poppers on morning I awoke and was happy to find i was able to put the gas tank to my chest and ride at a cool balancing point
Iam in the same boat you are. A month ago I was just getting the feel of the front wheel popping up and down a little when i goosed it at around 4.5 grand. after about 250 little poppers on morning I awoke and was happy to find i was able to put the gas tank to my chest and ride at a cool balancing point
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Definetly get the damper, one of the scariest crashes I've ever seen was when a guy was setting a one foot standing wheelie down and got a tank slapper and smacked into the back of a parked car at about eighty. If I can find the link to the vid I'll post it. The damper will stop a slapper and it would have kept him upright.
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actually that video was on Real TV one time..The rider is deef...PhiSig1071 said:
He was always doing wheelies but he tried something new this time. He saw the car ahead and decided to bring it down so for "safety" reasons.. well it didn't go that well..
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The way i learned on most bikes i have ridden (tl100,r1,gsxr1000,hayabusa) is in drag races. But i agree with an earlier post, that is that you are the one who is going to be doing all the learning and no one else. I also think that by getting this advice you are less likely to end up on your back. Be safe though you can fall back or fall in the splits if you try to land with your legs, i had it happen. don't get discouraged and enjoy it. Always respect your bikes power too, the more respect you show it the better you will feel.
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