A few months ago I had my coolant drainage bolt break off when I was changing the coolant so I had to take my 2004 R1 to a local powersports shop to get the bike repaired. The powersports shop services many different makes, including Yamaha. The service desk technician recommended a standard coolant/anti-freeze. I asked specifically about using 'engine ice' brand coolant since R1s generate a lot of heat. I was told engine ice should only be used for track bikes as engine ice is bad for the radiator. Is this true?
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Whoever told you that needs a spanking, with a cactus.
Track bikes get hotter and are abused more, so why would people use something that is bad for the radiator to cool their bikes down even more?
The whole point of engine ice is that it isn't slippery and that is why it's sanctioned for trackdays/racing. It is completely fine and many people have been using it for years without any trouble.
Check out reviews below:
Engine Ice High Performance Coolant - RevZilla
https://www.amazon.com/Engine-Ice-TYDS008-Performance-Coolant/dp/B000H01NFY
Track bikes get hotter and are abused more, so why would people use something that is bad for the radiator to cool their bikes down even more?
The whole point of engine ice is that it isn't slippery and that is why it's sanctioned for trackdays/racing. It is completely fine and many people have been using it for years without any trouble.
Check out reviews below:
Engine Ice High Performance Coolant - RevZilla
https://www.amazon.com/Engine-Ice-TYDS008-Performance-Coolant/dp/B000H01NFY
Coolant chemistry is one of the most misunderstood and misinformed topics in motorsports. Probably because the average USA citizen hates chemistry, and either did poorly in chemistry class or never took any chemistry classes.
Engine Ice (propylene glycol) won't hurt the radiator.
Engine Ice does NOT cool as good as "normal" coolant (ethylene glycol + water)
The boiling point of engine ice is higher than normal anti-freeze.
The bottom line?
- Use Engine Ice on the race track and drag strip. You don't want to be THAT GUY who pukes slippery antifreeze and shuts down the entire track.
- Don't use Engine Ice if you don't track or drag, and your bike doesn't over heat. Normal antifreeze will allow your bike to run cooler and make more power.
Since Engine Ice has a higher boiling point, it works well in bikes that overheat - but that's just a Band-Aide! It's a lot better to get the dang overheating issue fixed!
If you want ultimate cool-running and best power output, run pure distilled water + water-wetter +about 20% ethylene glycol. The bike would actually run cooler with no ethylene glycol but it's needed for lubrication of the water pump and corrosion control. DON'T FORGET TO CHANGE IT OUT IF THE AIR TEMPERATURE GETS COOLER THAN ABOUT 16 DEGREES F or you'll risk cracking your motor and radiator wide open!!!
Engine Ice (propylene glycol) won't hurt the radiator.
Engine Ice does NOT cool as good as "normal" coolant (ethylene glycol + water)
The boiling point of engine ice is higher than normal anti-freeze.
The bottom line?
- Use Engine Ice on the race track and drag strip. You don't want to be THAT GUY who pukes slippery antifreeze and shuts down the entire track.
- Don't use Engine Ice if you don't track or drag, and your bike doesn't over heat. Normal antifreeze will allow your bike to run cooler and make more power.
Since Engine Ice has a higher boiling point, it works well in bikes that overheat - but that's just a Band-Aide! It's a lot better to get the dang overheating issue fixed!
If you want ultimate cool-running and best power output, run pure distilled water + water-wetter +about 20% ethylene glycol. The bike would actually run cooler with no ethylene glycol but it's needed for lubrication of the water pump and corrosion control. DON'T FORGET TO CHANGE IT OUT IF THE AIR TEMPERATURE GETS COOLER THAN ABOUT 16 DEGREES F or you'll risk cracking your motor and radiator wide open!!!
I have run it in several of my bikes (MV Agusta F4RR and 2009 R1) and both bikes ran cooler than with the factory antifreeze. On the label it states good from -26 deg to boil over at +256 deg. I will run it in my next R1. Good stuff!
I use Engine Ice.
I've seen the nasty gunky buildup that normal coolant can cause in the coolant system.
Engine Ice is still slippery enough to lubricate the water pump.
I've seen the nasty gunky buildup that normal coolant can cause in the coolant system.
Engine Ice is still slippery enough to lubricate the water pump.
My R1 has been running engine ice for 2-3 seasons.. not a single worry. Ive seen 5 to 10 degrees celcius cooler temps, thats huge!
i run it on all my bikes. just kidding the Raider is air cooled :hammer:
in terms of listening to others wacked out advice, some mechanics should be out shopping for a cardboard box to live in :lol
i run it on all my bikes. just kidding the Raider is air cooled :hammer:
in terms of listening to others wacked out advice, some mechanics should be out shopping for a cardboard box to live in :lol
Im using TECTALOY COOLANT 100 PLUS it cheaper then buying several bottles of engine ice (its not cheap in aus).
Its standard coolant but mixed at 50/50 not one sign of corrosion and the bike has been sitting for ages.
Also a good tip is to never undo the drain bolt to drop coolant just take the pipe off instead, you have a very high chance of stripping the drain bolt.
Its standard coolant but mixed at 50/50 not one sign of corrosion and the bike has been sitting for ages.
Also a good tip is to never undo the drain bolt to drop coolant just take the pipe off instead, you have a very high chance of stripping the drain bolt.
I love threads like this. No one ever says "I changed to XYZ and my bike ran hotter".
The displayed engine temperature depends on a number of things. It is also affected by where the sensor is situated in the cooling system, so sometimes it's the temp coming out of the engine, or it can be where the radiator water enters the engine.
The coolant with the highest heat capacity is water. Engine Ice is about the lowest. If you're on a track or riding in hot weather, then straight water with a corrosion inhibitor and wetting agent is probably your best choice.
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The displayed engine temperature depends on a number of things. It is also affected by where the sensor is situated in the cooling system, so sometimes it's the temp coming out of the engine, or it can be where the radiator water enters the engine.
The coolant with the highest heat capacity is water. Engine Ice is about the lowest. If you're on a track or riding in hot weather, then straight water with a corrosion inhibitor and wetting agent is probably your best choice.
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