Just curious as to why Motivation Frame sliders? I bought a pair thinking the letters were engraved or raised, but they were only a sticker which comes off. Without the sticker they look like any other ordinary frame slider. Why pay for a sticker? Someone here makes frame sliders and has received some good feedback. To answer your question, I got my Motivation Frame sliders off ebay last summer. I never mounted them, but instead mounted the carbon fiber ones from LP