i would recommend

front Michelin Pilot race2 soft compound

rear Michelin Pilot Sport hpx

great grip

i would get about 700 miles to a set

 

Once again.. I use the M1's.. I cant say anything bad about them.. and dont recall anybody saying anything bad about them other than they wear pretty fast.. 3000-5000miles is what I've heard/seen so far. On the streets of DC.. all the 'fast' guys use them

 

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M1s and Diablos are about the same. I like the M1s alot. The 012ss are sticky to.

 

Michelin Pilot Sports
Michelin Pilot Sports
Michelin Pilot Sports

 

M1 M1 M1:beer

 

with the M-1's you wont get that many miles out of the tire....but they do stick like hell...they are great tires....for alternatives the pirelli super corsa's are great I hear

 

Getting my second set of M1's tomorrow.

 

Despite what everyone says, the Metz M1 is not the same tire as the Diablo. It looks and fels to me to have more in common with the Pirelli Dragon Evo than the Diablo.

Out of the list you've provided I would choose the BT012SS because it sticks better and is cheaper than the Pilot Sport, M1, and the standard Diablo.

The Diablo Corsa is about as sticky as the BT012SS, but it costs 30+ bucks more for a rear and you may not get the longevity of the Bridgestone.

Speaking of the Diablo and Diablo Corsa, these are essentially completely different tires with the same family name. The Corsa does not seem to have the same dual compound design as the Diablo, which will lead to increased wear on the Corsa. If you're a corner junky like me, you'll be surprised by the wear patterns on the Diablo rear. It'll wear into a V, with the middle of the tire looking and feeling much harder than the sides. The further it wears on the sides the more unpredictable the turn-in becomes since you have kind of a ridge to get through on the way down and up.

The rubber injection process seems to be different, as well. I'm suspecting that the entire construction of the Corsa carcass is different than the Diablo.

I prefer the Corsa by a wide margin over the Diablo due to the better straight-line performance and more predictable turn-in characteristics of that tire. It has prodigious amounts of grip. I've not spun it up on corner exit on the road, which is not normal.

As the Diablo goes off a bit and starts to wear, you may notice a bit a squirmy behavior from the rear end that contributes to some front-end stability problems, as well. This may be related to the V-like wear of the tire.

Overall, I would choose the BT012SS since it is cheaper ($125 for a 190 rear, $88 for a front) and it's a great tire. You can always go to the M1 or Pilot later if you don't like it, but I'll bet you will. And why spend the jack if you don't have to????

 

Once again.. I use the M1's.. I cant say anything bad about them.. and dont recall anybody saying anything bad about them other than they wear pretty fast.. 3000-5000miles is what I've heard/seen so far. On the streets of DC.. all the 'fast' guys use them

I would really love to know how people are getting 3-5k miles out of their (rear) tires. I get 1500 miles, tops, before they are bologna skins. Check that, I got 1800 out of a pair of BT012SS, but that was in the winter.

I mean, if the weather is nice for 4 or 5 days straight, that's a tire. It's expensive!

 

Heard good things about the M1's and I've had the Pilots before and they were pretty awesome!

 

I would really love to know how people are getting 3-5k miles out of their (rear) tires. I get 1500 miles, tops, before they are bologna skins. Check that, I got 1800 out of a pair of BT012SS, but that was in the winter.

I mean, if the weather is nice for 4 or 5 days straight, that's a tire. It's expensive!

I hear this and it blows my mind. What kind of riding are you doing? I can see on the track but is this normal street wear? I don't see how you can drive within reasonable range of the speed limit and trash a tire like this. I'd like to see pictures of your tire after 1800 miles.

I'm not doubting you. I'm just really curious.

Given I've been using 207s (have 500 miles on some M1s now)but damn. I'm not close to draggin knee but 1800 miles! Like you said, you'd need new tires every couple weeks of good weather.

 

listen my r1 has 10000 miles on it and the stock dunlops on it and the front tire has looks of tread but the rear is almost bald so 1500 miles where r u riding on gravel

 

I don't think that 1500 miles is unbelieveable. I usually get between 2000 and 2500 out of a street rear, and thats switching to sticky tires for the track days. on the street the wear is usually more toward the center, and heavily on the edges with the track tires. After 2 or 3 track days they're pretty much shagged. I wasn't to dissapointed with the orig. 208's but have swithed to the M1's for the street. I like them a lot. The pilot sports I'm told, are good but need a bit longer to warm up. The others I know nothing about.
I'm sure you wont' go wrong with any of the tires you mentioned, especially compared to the OEM tires.

 

10K miles on one set of tires???

hmm
i rode 2500 on my stock ZRs before they felt like crap.

I have rennsports on my bike now and like em.

if you do any kind of twisty riding theres no way youre gonna get 10k miles on a set of tires.

 

I'd say I averaged 6,7 K on my 207ZR's. City, suburban riding. Mostly "commuting" so to speak from place to place.

I realize our riding styles differ and I'd like to get the bike over more, just don't have a place for it consistently.

but 1800 miles......I just don't get it.

 

M1's all the way they :rock

 

I'm with Mav. 2300 on the 208's, just over 2500 on Pilots, through several sets of H2's, Pirelli's, 208GP's on the track, total miles under 6500...

If you use the 130-150 HP (depending on mods, etc) that the Yamagods gave you, R1's eat tires. If you roll around and short shift,, lots of short rides where the tire doesn't get warm, then I could see 5000+ miles.

 

I hear this and it blows my mind. What kind of riding are you doing? I can see on the track but is this normal street wear? I don't see how you can drive within reasonable range of the speed limit and trash a tire like this. I'd like to see pictures of your tire after 1800 miles.

This is a shot (taken a few minutes ago) of my current rear Pirelli Diablo Corsa 190/50. It has 642 miles on it - two and a half afternoons of riding.

If I could show another pic of a new corsa next to it you'd see that the tread is about 40-50% gone compared to new.

No bones about it, I ride fast and hard on selected circuits of backroads. There is no way I could get over 2000 miles out of a sport compound tire. I had to stop using 180/55's because, even though they gave great turn-in for the first 400 miles, they'd wear out even quicker than 190/50's...

 

This is a shot (taken a few minutes ago) of my current rear Pirelli Diablo Corsa 190/50. It has 642 miles on it - two and a half afternoons of riding.

If I could show another pic of a new corsa next to it you'd see that the tread is about 40-50% gone compared to new.

No bones about it, I ride fast and hard on selected circuits of backroads. There is no way I could get over 2000 miles out of a sport compound tire. I had to stop using 180/55's because, even though they gave great turn-in for the first 400 miles, they'd wear out even quicker than 190/50's...

Cool. Thanks for the picture. I guess if a tire can be done in at a day at the track then 1800 miles of hard riding isn't unreasonable.

 

I just wish I had acess to roads I could abuse my tires on.

 

listen my r1 has 10000 miles on it and the stock dunlops on it and the front tire has looks of tread but the rear is almost bald so 1500 miles where r u riding on gravel

Are you serious? I highly doubt you have 10000 miles on any set of tires. :no

 

I'm looking at getting a new pair of tires for my 00 R1. I was pretty decided on the Metzeler M1's untill I came to this forum. I hear a lot of good on the Michelins and the Bridgestone 012SS's. I'm also looking at Pirelli's Diablos. Can I get a good round of opinions from you guys that have actually used 1, a few, or all of these tires I've listed?

I'm not too concerned with mileage, but maximum grip. Once again the tires I'm looking at are:
Metzeler M1's
Michelin Pilot Sports
Bridgestone 012SS
Pirelli Diablos (or any other comparable Pirelli)

Thanks!
:hellobye

They are all pretty good choices. Everybody has different preferences. Me, I use Michelin Pilot Sports.:yesnod

 

If you use the 130-150 HP (depending on mods, etc) that the Yamagods gave you, R1's eat tires. If you roll around and short shift,, lots of short rides where the tire doesn't get warm, then I could see 5000+ miles.

I'm wondering if this is my problem, I mean, I ride 2-300 miles each time I get the bike out. I wonder if the tire is more likely to wear more if it was subjected to 300 miles of 1 heat cycle, or 300 miles of 5 heat cycles? Riden in the same manner, of course...

 

Metzeler Rennsports and Pirelli Supercorsas are my personal favorites. Milage is descent and they stick like mad.