those are some good numbers, what kind of mods do you have?

 

Akra Slipons & Y pipe,PCIII(Custom Map),K&N filter....

Here's mine:

Good to see.....


Come on people..... surely there must be some of you with 07/08 R1's with full systems that have Dyno run sheets?.would be good to see the difference at 6000 to 8000rpm?

 

Here's mine:

 

Hey Tapcon, just wondering if you have had any problems with your speedohealer? Looking at your dyno sheet it doesn't appear you do. Some guys say they had problems with it over 10,000 rpms (not as much power with SH installed), not verified on a dyno, just the feeling they get.. I have one on my bike and it runs fine.

 

i gain 13 hp..hammer::bash

 

Dyno run sheet......post it.....

 

i dont have it my son ripp it :O(

 

Mine with a custom made 176.45 but............

I no longer have the sheet. And don't have a scanner anyway.

I have BMC race, and a Full Graves with a custom map.

 

Well it seems that not many people are posting there dyno run results, after mods, if you are not afraid...?then lets see them...here's mine.


I just want to get an idea of what everyone's bikes are doing after mods...& see who's chocking the chicken & who?s telling the truth..

while I know this is mostly a troll/talk shit thread and no one wants intelligence or common sense to screw it up I have to comment.

Every same year same modle bike with the same mods is making the same power yours is. No matter what the numbers they got from the dyno their bike is just as lightning fast as yours.

Looks like you have a dyno with a very optimistic calibration factor, which makes people (like yourself) feel like a hero for riding a 170+ HP bike, even though in truth it's mostly stock and no more special than anyone else's.

why in the world would anyone be scared to post a freaking dyno sheet...lol

 

Looks like you have a dyno with a very optimistic calibration factor, which makes people (like yourself) feel like a hero for riding a 170+ HP bike, even though in truth it's mostly stock and no more special than anyone else's.


why in the world would anyone be scared to post a freaking dyno sheet...lol[/quote

Im no Hero.....are YOU..

The whole idea of this thread was to see the difference if any, between a full system and slip-ons with Y pipe..at 5500 to 8000rpm?If you cant understand ENGLISH or cant comprehend what the thread is about no-wonder your ride a GSXR? that?s no my problem?.:no

If thats the case......where are all the posts.....:dunno

 

i know have a much better tune and a 10 hp bigger jet in the nozzle, but i still dont feel like a hero:fork

 

thats like 165-168 on motor? what shot you running in it now?
Hoping to dyno the 07 G1K soon . Hoping for a good 200-205 hp.

 

thats like 165-168 on motor? what shot you running in it now?
Hoping to dyno the 07 G1K soon . Hoping for a good 200-205 hp.

yea 166 on the motor with a crappy tune, its deff an optimistic dyno

that was with a 30 jet im now running a 40 , i verified with my wideband all is well with the a/f with the 40

for my maxton run i have decided to run race gas and for shits and giggles im gona run it on this dyno with the race gas and no2 before I go to maxton wouldnt be suprised if i was in the 175 range on motor and 215 range on no2

 

that should be fun

Owner of the 07 G1K wants to put a 60 shot in the bike and dyno it. I am worried it will pop...lol

It still has good A/F with a 50 shot, but A/F ain't everything. eventually the metal parts will find a pressure that they cannot handle and break.

I will for sure post the sheet once it gets run. It should be a learning experiance for sure.

 

that should be fun

Owner of the 07 G1K wants to put a 60 shot in the bike and dyno it. I am worried it will pop...lol

It still has good A/F with a 50 shot, but A/F ain't everything. eventually the metal parts will find a pressure that they cannot handle and break.

I will for sure post the sheet once it gets run. It should be a learning experiance for sure.

putting a progresive contoller might help smooth the hit some, it would be more expensive but a 60 shot is pretty big

 

we don't want to smooth it...lol It's not safe as is, but man it really is fun. In a totally not a good idea kind of way

been 9.23 @ 158 so far, and it's a street bike with a not great rider.

 

we don't want to smooth it...lol It's not safe as is, but man it really is fun. In a totally not a good idea kind of way

been 9.23 @ 158 so far, and it's a street bike with a not great rider.

lol, yea i know what you mean

that f'n flying who was riding it and is it streched and lowered

 

here's mine! I'm not afraid! :flex:

 

Where?

 

:dundun: I'm not afraid, I'm just stupid.

this compares stock to now.
I don't have big #'s like you guys.

 

That's an OK jump :hammer:

 

lowered but stil streetable, 8 over, me riding. I gave it everything I had, but I hve not launched a long bike before and really don't think I let the clutch out as quickly as it could have been.

It's a huge difference between launching a stock streetbike, and launching a lowered and longer bike. One is ride the clutch, the other is drop the clutch.

I built a G1K once that made 38 RW HP over stock. It took ALLOT of money, and ALLOT of work!! It's fun to ride, but most likely slower on the street than a piped and pc'ed same modle and year bike.

 

SamC, calm down guy. I ride a GSXR, and an R1. I am no Hero.

If the idea was really to find the midrange differences in a slip-on bike and a full system bike then why not ask for just that? whay all the big talk about people being scared to post their dyno sheet?

if you knew anything at all about dyno's you would know that the numbers are not comparable unless they are taken on the same dyno, on the same day, or at the very least on the same dyno in similar weather conditions.

Your bike has the same sized pistons, same stroke, same red line, same valve sizes, same cam timing, same air box...etc as all the other same year R1's. Any same year R1 with the same mods will amke the same power as your's.

You know why? They all are moving/squeezing/expanding the same ammount of air. The numbers will change a bit due to air conditions present and the map, but really they will make the same power if in the same location tested on the same dyno mapped to the same a/f.

 

SamC, calm down guy. I ride a GSXR, and an R1. I am no Hero.

If the idea was really to find the midrange differences in a slip-on bike and a full system bike then why not ask for just that? whay all the big talk about people being scared to post their dyno sheet?

if you knew anything at all about dyno's you would know that the numbers are not comparable unless they are taken on the same dyno, on the same day, or at the very least on the same dyno in similar weather conditions.
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Alright I've calmed down.....

A lot of people talk about figures but rarely show their Dyno sheet runs?why?:dunno

Thought if I made that statement. (Being scared)?people would post?.not attack me...

I understand about different Dyno?s & readings but one could get general trend on figures?.

Before this new map & Y pipe I did go to the track and only had 4 passes best was 10:3..nothing flash but at least... its all happened..and not in my imagination.

 

I tried a full Akra system compared to a Scorpion/slip jet kit filter...etc on the same bike(01-R6)...Ok he ran it one day apart...from each run on the same dyno..look at the results...:yuk:

When he called me about the supposed gains....I told him to put that full system back in the box and send it back.....:fact

Its not the R1 but still it was a full system........

 

I'm not as familiar with R6's so I can't make an educated comment except to say that doesn't look right.

I am familiar with first gen FZ1's & a full akro will make them a whole different animal, instantly bolt on 10 HP.

I am familiar with 04-06 R1's & a full system (akro or otherwise) is well known to make a big difference in the midrange dip as well as a decent gain on the top.

pretty much every bike I know about has benefited greatly from a full system.

slip ons don't add much if any power in my experience.

in general, Jay's right, the same bike with the same mods will make the same power under the same circumstances.

there are differences because of manufacturing tolerances & some bike will be stronger or weaker than others but that is not the norm.

 

Don't care what the graph on the dyno says...... my bike got 8 pounds lighter with a full system..... didn't need a dyno to feel a difference, I could feel that with my right hand..... ( lol )

 

good point that hasn't been brought up yet.
my bike lost 11 or 12 lbs (I don't remember right now).

 

I do however hope to have a graph to post up sometime soon...... My 02' now has the following - Akra full system / PCIII / Graves velocity stacks / Carbon airbox / Graves throttle slide stops / and a bunch of weight removed.... would be nice if all tha actually made a power gain ( lol )

 

what did you have before?

 

was completely stock when I bought it..... last time I rode it on the track it had the exhaust / PCIII / stock wheels - brakes.
So the velocity stacks / airbox and slide stops are new, it's gone from 298mm to 320mm rotors, the Marchesini's are on there now..... and race body work. So I'm hoping for better throttle response and since I dropped another 15 pounds off of it..... better acceleration had, better be there :hammer:

Next winter ( if you're still doing it ) the head will get done, the pistons will get replaced, a balanced set of rods and crank will go in and a close ratio gearbox !!

 

do you race for real or just do track days?

 

I have to check the AFM schedule.... I may jump into a few races at ThunderHill and maybe Sears point..... but I'm not sure how well I'd do on a 2002 bike ( lol )

 

wow that is a happy dyno you got there SAM.

 

:lol....Yep I know.... my bikes a LEMON....

 

Does anyone have before and after dyno's of mods on stock ECU and mods on a aftermarket fuel controller.

I think the ECU is better at engine management than any fixed engine map.:dunnoor am I

My mods are A&R race baffles with the Akra Y pipe and O2 plugged in.
No actual seat time yet with the mods just plenty of Carbon monoxide posionong listening to it rumble in the Garage

I think it was SOBER that has a dyno run on just the ECU with same mods done as I have.

 

there was a dyno done with these mods, and if I remember, it pretty much had a perfect A/F ratio across the board, i myself have an Akra Y pipe/GYTR slip ons and the o2 plugged in, seems to run really good....

 

the older carbed R6's are very exhaust sensitive, and have some of the worst factory jetting possible.

A full system Akro is great on these bikes, but you need an Ivan's jet to to make it work. It's the only kit that I have seen do anything to help these bikes, it makes a huge difference on these bikes.

You can look at www.IvansPerformanceProducts.com and see his dyno charts on these bikes.

I think Vcycle nut is dead on about dyno tuning. It was never meant to only set the mixture at WOT, but thats generraly the way the dyno's are being used.

When people go in and wait while their bike is tuned and pay $200 thats pretty much what they are going to get unless the operator really knows what he is doing.

Even then you cannot built a complete custom map in an hour that will be as good as a map built by someone riding the bike in the real world and no time limits.

I am interested in the new competition to the Powercommander that you can get an 02 sensor with and have it map it's self. Sounds great on paper, have to wait till I can try one to know how well they really work.

I believe that the latest DynoJet 250's have a mapping program built into them that will run the bike through all the various rpm ranges and throttle setting to build the custom map. I believe the dyno even turns the bikes throttle so no operator error. I have not had a bike mapped this way myself, but it seems like the best way to go for most people if it's avabile in your area.

 

I am interested in the new competition to the Powercommander that you can get an 02 sensor with and have it map it's self. Sounds great on paper, have to wait till I can try one to know how well they really work.

I believe that the latest DynoJet 250's have a mapping program built into them that will run the bike through all the various rpm ranges and throttle setting to build the custom map. I believe the dyno even turns the bikes throttle so no operator error. I have not had a bike mapped this way myself, but it seems like the best way to go for most people if it's avabile in your area.

i am also quite anxious to see if the pizzaz performance device works especially since it has a form of traction controll available

i have retuned a bike that was tuned using the feedback system that dyno jet has for their dyno's. The bike would go above and below 13:1 like either the processer was not fast enough and it would overshoot the correction or the operator did not do enough runs to get it smooth. My old computer that has all of these runs is acting up. I have to get a memory stick and transfer some data if you are interested ill post up some a:f runs when I get it transferred

 

Local Ducati shop down the street from me seems pretty good.... they charge $75 hr and say up front, it could take a couple hours to get a good map because they do NOT just do full throttle runs like other places.... might give them a try