So now guys, i believe that most of u had finished the break in and had fun with ur 04R1.
Come, state ur findings on the 04R1.
Pros n Cons.
Come, state ur findings on the 04R1.
Pros n Cons.
draco1
best so far...
The 04 is the best one so far, hands down. My only major complaint about it is that the bike encourages a very weight-forward position, which is fantastic for performance and incredible / immediate turn in (the bike is the most responsive front end on an R1 ever, and also the most composed) however the very-up-front weight/posture the bike makes the rider use I found to be kinda cramped up front, and my wrists felt fatigued a bit as a restult.
performance wise, the unit I rode wasn't broken in fully, but I could swear my 02 with PC3R and exhaust had a bit more midrange grunt than -04, but past about 7 grand the 04 is clearly WAY beyond the 02... and it might have been lower on the rev band, but I noticed the bike just wanted to RUN RUN RUN...
tough choice- all the 04's are awesome this year, however the R1 is I think the best its ever been and looks the hottest of the 04s as a whole.. a very hard bike to argue with
The 04 is the best one so far, hands down. My only major complaint about it is that the bike encourages a very weight-forward position, which is fantastic for performance and incredible / immediate turn in (the bike is the most responsive front end on an R1 ever, and also the most composed) however the very-up-front weight/posture the bike makes the rider use I found to be kinda cramped up front, and my wrists felt fatigued a bit as a restult.
performance wise, the unit I rode wasn't broken in fully, but I could swear my 02 with PC3R and exhaust had a bit more midrange grunt than -04, but past about 7 grand the 04 is clearly WAY beyond the 02... and it might have been lower on the rev band, but I noticed the bike just wanted to RUN RUN RUN...
tough choice- all the 04's are awesome this year, however the R1 is I think the best its ever been and looks the hottest of the 04s as a whole.. a very hard bike to argue with
Re: best so far...
I guess this is just like the Kawi ZX-R636... my friend has one and he was always complaining about his wrists. Then we all took his bike for a ride and he was right about the weight to his wrist. But after couple of weeks, he found himself a position/way to ride it without any problem.scud said:
The only con I can think of is the damn Laptimer . I guess they just said hell , we can put a stopwatch function in the display for nothing extra . No button on the bars makes it useless .draco1 said:
Other than that , this baby Rocks !
Pros:
Looks
Handeling
Power
Power
Power
Exhaust note
Smooth Fi
Great brakes
Steering damper works good
Good OEM tires for agressive riding
Power
The only con (depending on how you look at it) is the power comes in at higher RPMS. I am used to ridding 750s, so for me this is no big deal. There also seems to be a dip on the torque curve. I do not feel it that much on the bike. This might be taken away with the removal of the EXUP 
I think the bike is less committed than some of the others in the same class (gixxer and ZX10). Again, I have been riding Suzuki for a number of years. The riding position is more comfortable than the gixxer. I will admit that I was spoiled with the comfortable seat of the gixxer. But in the end, we do not buy this type of bike for riding comfort, right?
The handling of the bike and the stock tires seem to be terrific....
Short or tall, the bike seems to fit all.
I have only put a 100 miles on mine and have had a number of comments on the looks of the bike. Everyone I have run into thinks this is one of the best looking bikes out there (personally I love my silver :yesnod )
All and All, I am happy I bought it. NOW, if the weather would just cooperate
I think the bike is less committed than some of the others in the same class (gixxer and ZX10). Again, I have been riding Suzuki for a number of years. The riding position is more comfortable than the gixxer. I will admit that I was spoiled with the comfortable seat of the gixxer. But in the end, we do not buy this type of bike for riding comfort, right?
The handling of the bike and the stock tires seem to be terrific....
Short or tall, the bike seems to fit all.
I have only put a 100 miles on mine and have had a number of comments on the looks of the bike. Everyone I have run into thinks this is one of the best looking bikes out there (personally I love my silver :yesnod )
All and All, I am happy I bought it. NOW, if the weather would just cooperate
Re: Re: best so far...
I'm not gonna bother getting into another :fact war...
I'm 6'0" and 190 punds. I'm well aware that it SHOULD be more comfy... but it is not- your body is way more upfront- so I don't care about the elevation of the bars- my wrists were more comfy on my 02... I don't try to worry about why..I just report what I know I felt on the bike...
I'm not gonna bother getting into another :fact war...
I'm 6'0" and 190 punds. I'm well aware that it SHOULD be more comfy... but it is not- your body is way more upfront- so I don't care about the elevation of the bars- my wrists were more comfy on my 02... I don't try to worry about why..I just report what I know I felt on the bike...
r1-superstar said:
Re: best so far...
Isn't wrist fatigue a sign that you're holding on to tight or putting a lot of weight or grip on the handlebars?scud said:
Re: Re: Re: best so far...
So, despite the more upright riding style on the 04, the moer limited lever repositioning available on the 04 will make your wrists strain a lot more, without having to conclude that your technique is at fault. Check it out, I am pretty sure you will concur that this is the culprit.
Scud, I belive I know why you are having such a wrist problem on the 04. Yes, it is true that the 04 has a more upright riding position. But you are pretty tall, and combined with the more upright riding position, I would bet that your wrists have to be more hyper-extended to allow use of the levers. The 04 permits much less lever postioning options than my 00. I rotate the levers down to allow my wrists a straight shot to the grips when I am operating the clutch and front brake levers, and that is on the 00 which has a more aggressive riding position (which requires less lever downward repositioning than the more upright style of the 04), plus you are taller than I am, further aggrevating the condition.scud said:
So, despite the more upright riding style on the 04, the moer limited lever repositioning available on the 04 will make your wrists strain a lot more, without having to conclude that your technique is at fault. Check it out, I am pretty sure you will concur that this is the culprit.
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But eyespy, I'm 6 foot and don't have a problem with the riding position. It seems to be better than the pre '04s.
I will have to agree with eyespy here. I too rotate my levers down some. This will help to aleviate some uncomfortableness. The brake perch does not rotate as much due to the fact of the brake line hitting the fork tube. (Damn!)Eyespy said:
But eyespy, I'm 6 foot and don't have a problem with the riding position. It seems to be better than the pre '04s.
Re: Re: best so far...
I don't understand... This bike is much more comfortable than my 00' R1 was. My wrist feel great on the 04 and they did bother me on the 00' Maybe you haven't ridden an older R1 ??? The riding position is much much better on the 04 :2bitchsla
BTW 6'1" 200lbs
r1-superstar said:
I don't understand... This bike is much more comfortable than my 00' R1 was. My wrist feel great on the 04 and they did bother me on the 00' Maybe you haven't ridden an older R1 ??? The riding position is much much better on the 04 :2bitchsla
BTW 6'1" 200lbs
As far as Pro's and Con's, my .02
Pro's
1. Improved riding position - seat is a little stiff but a Corbon seat will fix this.
2. Increased power - love the third gear power wheelies:rock
3. Look's - doesn't get much better.....
4. Ram air
5. Narrower frame
6. Love the red color
7. Better brakes
8. FI is awesome.....
9. Blue dash is cool.
10. Many more
Con's
1. No storage under seat
2. I'm gonna get some tickets
3. Tafffic school for above if not jail time
4. Don't have enough time to ride
5. Bug's get on the front of bike when riding
6. Tall first gear- but new front sproket will fix this.
7. Girlfiend misses me??? Wait that a Pro - move to above.
8. I get my new pipe tonight and have to go do a dyno run?? wait move that to above also .....
:rock :rock You get the idea
Pro's
1. Improved riding position - seat is a little stiff but a Corbon seat will fix this.
2. Increased power - love the third gear power wheelies:rock
3. Look's - doesn't get much better.....
4. Ram air
5. Narrower frame
6. Love the red color
7. Better brakes
8. FI is awesome.....
9. Blue dash is cool.
10. Many more
Con's
1. No storage under seat
2. I'm gonna get some tickets
3. Tafffic school for above if not jail time
4. Don't have enough time to ride
5. Bug's get on the front of bike when riding
6. Tall first gear- but new front sproket will fix this.
7. Girlfiend misses me??? Wait that a Pro - move to above.
8. I get my new pipe tonight and have to go do a dyno run?? wait move that to above also .....
:rock :rock You get the idea
Pros- The 04 is the $hit ! It's the hottest thing one the street...
con- The seat is thin and it kills my a$$ after a few hours. Also,, out here in Cali, it's been 90 degrees for the last few days..... So I've had a HOT sore a$$:butt OH..also,, there's no space under the passenger seat....No room for my bike lock and chain
con- The seat is thin and it kills my a$$ after a few hours. Also,, out here in Cali, it's been 90 degrees for the last few days..... So I've had a HOT sore a$$:butt OH..also,, there's no space under the passenger seat....No room for my bike lock and chain
you sir are BY FAR my favourite 04 R1 owner!!R1LOVER said:
reminds me of myself.. except i have an 02
now where are those vid's you posted of you wilding out on the bike with it still brand new!
Pro: sounds like it beats the shit out of the older gen. r1s (and other makes) in just about every concievable performance category.
Con: alot of people think the 02-03 was the pinnacle of r1 styling. the 04 has a pretty chubby tail, an ugly seat, a huge seamed tank. the bike is kind of hit and miss on the asthetics.
Con: alot of people think the 02-03 was the pinnacle of r1 styling. the 04 has a pretty chubby tail, an ugly seat, a huge seamed tank. the bike is kind of hit and miss on the asthetics.
In reference to the hot seat issue.
I worked for a Ducati shop for a little bit, and that seemed to be a constant complaint amoung 748/998(996) owners. What seemed to help in those situations was to put some heat tape, or that silvery/sticky, heat reflections stuff on the bottom of the seat and tail. If you take your time it doesn't look that bad when the seat is up, and not noticeable at all during normal conditions....
Hope this helps.
I worked for a Ducati shop for a little bit, and that seemed to be a constant complaint amoung 748/998(996) owners. What seemed to help in those situations was to put some heat tape, or that silvery/sticky, heat reflections stuff on the bottom of the seat and tail. If you take your time it doesn't look that bad when the seat is up, and not noticeable at all during normal conditions....
Hope this helps.
G
yeah im 6'7" and i cant belive you tiny guys are complaining that your wrists hurt.
just giving you guys a hard time, but try to use your legs more, as well as your back. they will both be sore for a bit, but if you work out those muscles, you put very little strain on the wrists.
and eyespy good point about the levers, its one thing ive never touched, but now that you mention it, im going to have to go give mine the stright line treatment as well, thanks for the heads up.
just giving you guys a hard time, but try to use your legs more, as well as your back. they will both be sore for a bit, but if you work out those muscles, you put very little strain on the wrists.
and eyespy good point about the levers, its one thing ive never touched, but now that you mention it, im going to have to go give mine the stright line treatment as well, thanks for the heads up.
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