Most tracks are better suited for 600cc bikes. Lighter rotating mass and chassis. Quicker turn in. Less likely to spin up the rear tire exiting the apex. It will absolutely eat up the turns. Today's 600's will pull pretty good in the straights too; although, the R1 will have the advantage there. It's a blast watching liter bikes get passed in the curves by 600's and 250's.

 

:stpd: If you want to learn to be a better, and more importantly faster, rider at the track then the R6 is the way to go. I've got a few friends that were non-believers last year, they all rode R1's. After a full season on their new R6 trackbikes they know exactly what I was talking about.

Liter bikes have a tendency of tricking the rider into thinking they're better than they really are. It's easy to "think" your fast once you get the bike stood up and crack the throttle. The R6 on the other hand makes you focus on braking, corner entry, apex and the exit because if you lose that momentum you don't have 155hp to fix your mistakes.

Not to mention the R6 just handles better, period.

 

I have a question.

First off, I own a 2004 R1 and a 2005 R6. I am debating selling the R6, but I keep getting told to make the R6 a track bike.

Why is that, isn't the R1 a better and faster track bike?? What does the R6 offer over the R1 for a "track bike".

Is it jsut because of the price of the bike if I drop it, or is it because the R6 is "better" on the track??

I'm curious...............

Sell the R6...Get a Gixxer 750...Best of both worlds.

 

Corner speed + cracking the throttle open + rolling the throttle open through the remanning of the turn (throttle-rule number one, remember ?!?!) is easier on the 600s, therefore corner speed will be higher on 600s and 750s. since lap times are 85% corner speed... Personally I'm having great fun with my 750 on the track.

Cheers

 

Most track records are held by 600's, so I'd keep the R6 and put some race fairings on it and slicks and have some fun. I run about the same times on my CBR F3 as i do on my R1 mainly because I'm scared of my throttle in a turn prolly has a lot to do with it.

 

I have more fun on the R1, and thats all that matters right now.

 

Im with ya on that one! The 600s are better on most tracks, but open up an R1 on the highbanks of Daytona, and you will get downright giddy as you pass the sixes on the high line! :ncont: :ncont: :tocoo:

 

R6....Tore me a new one on a small course.

 

I'd love to come ride with you, Daytona's a track I want to hit before it's all said and done. But since I'm in California it makes it a little difficult. It wasn't meant as a challenge so don't get your panties in a bunch, just a little ribbing.

I do take it to the track, about 30 times a year and plan to get back to racing next year as well. If you're still riding with an instructor in front of you I'm guessing you're a fairly new track rider. It might take some time but you'll see what I'm talking about if you keep doing trackdays, you'll learn more on a small bike, I'm confident your instructors would tell you the same thing. Keep at it though, it's better to use 80% of that liter bike at the track than 15% of it on the street.

 

I'd love to come ride with you, Daytona's a track I want to hit before it's all said and done. But since I'm in California it makes it a little difficult. It wasn't meant as a challenge so don't get your panties in a bunch, just a little ribbing.

I do take it to the track, about 30 times a year and plan to get back to racing next year as well. If you're still riding with an instructor in front of you I'm guessing you're a fairly new track rider. It might take some time but you'll see what I'm talking about if you keep doing trackdays, you'll learn more on a small bike, I'm confident your instructors would tell you the same thing. Keep at it though, it's better to use 80% of that liter bike at the track than 15% of it on the street.

I am NOT a new track rider, and lets keep my panties out of this. Team Hammer insists that you take their school if you have never ridden with THEM. Now that that is out of the way, do not assume that you have more track experience than I padewan, for that will get you passed with a quickness on a big track:riding :yesnod And as it is hereby passed into man law, I hereby proclaim you to be in PRO RACER MODE............................noobs...............................................

 

R6 rapes the R1 in handling. Try it yourself and see. R6 = best handling yet of all bikes.

 

Not if you have Pro Racer mode on your R1!

 

what you need is my 06 r6 ... ill sell it to you

 

I have been asking myself the same question a lot recently. I'm currently on the market for an R6 for the track because I keep hearing the same thing, "you will get better, faster on a 600". I have been using my R1 on the track, and have no real complaints. The only thing I can admit to is having to go light on the throttle when exiting corners to avoid spinning the rear out. Although I did have some fun at Pocono North earlier this month. Ponono North has a section of NASCAR track in it, enabling some serious speed. If I came out of the turn onto that straight at about 9k, I would blow by the 600s nicely.

 

JenningsGP, another track I missed out on when I was living out there. I've got a pretty good hook up with that track and a few of us out here have talked about making a trip out that way to hit Barber (Man I love that track!!!) and then Jennings for a weekend. If I make it happen I'll let you know.

 

A smaller capacity bike will definately teach you things that an R1 wont. It will add to your arsenal, and make you a better rider. I know this for a fact.

Having said that, racers _generally_ adopt a different style with the bigger bikes, more of a point and shoot technique. I need to qualify this by saying that there are some racers that still try and use the smaller bikes style ( high corner speeds with plenty of lean ),but in the main, its a different style.


Oh yeah, that pro racer mode is the shiz.