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Rear sprocket nut torque not 72 ft/lb?

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#1 ·
I just tried to retorque my rear sprocket at 72 ft/lb per the service manual and stripped 2 studs. Anybody got any other specs or has had this happen before? This is my only transportation right now and I'm really pissed. I'm not sure if I wanna take this to Yamaha or not seeing as how they may just say that it was my torque wrench that caused the problem...
 
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#3 ·
it's way too much for that size nut...25-35 lbs tops...if you search there was a thread on this... I would say around 30 and loctite...I have a 520 kit with driven sprockets and pro bolt nuts, and anything more than 25 was too much...

30-35ft lbs. max would be for stock...

there was a thread where many have made this same mistake...
 
#5 ·
That's correct, bone stock. I've done this before and never had a single problem. I just kept on pulling and something just didn't feel right. I took the 2 back off and sure enough the studs and nuts both were stripped. I'm 100% sure they weren't cross-threaded...
 
#6 ·
What the fack... So next question, should I take this to Yamaha over 10 bucks worth of studs and nuts or just eat it... I'm ordering the stuff anyhow because I can't afford to wait. We're already down to one vehicle aside from the bike and when I have to pick up my kid from school I am SOL.
 
#7 ·
If you really want to get what you paid, skip the dealer and write a respectful but clear letter to corporate Yamaha.

Don't call. A letter will make it's way to a person who will need to be accountable for it. If you really want to get fancy, fedex the letter in a box and it will not get "lost" in the mail room.
 
#8 ·
LOL good idear. I just ordered 2 studs and 2 nuts, flipping $12. Lesson learned, again...
 
#9 ·
If you try to torque those sprocket nuts to spec again. Try torquing them to 36 ft/lbs first then to 72 ft/lbs. With most high torque specs, I usually torque half way first, then finish with the other half and I haven't broken an bolt yet (knock on wood).

-Mike
 
#10 ·
With all do respect, 72 ft lbs is a misprint in the service manual. It's way too high for those rear sprocket bolts. As you can see in the aforementioned sticky link above, nearly every member will confirm this.
 
#12 ·
Funny as I just did a conversion kit on my 2010 and torqued them down to 72lb/ft and had no problem at all. I know for previous years that it was a misprint and forgot about it but how about the 2010. Didn't strip anything at all on all 6 nuts. Should I go back and half torque them or leave well enough alone
 
#13 ·
My first thought when I saw that torque value for those sized fasteners was that 72 ft lbs was WWAAAAYYYY too high. I checked my 2007 service manual and while in the maintenance diagram it does indicate that torque spec, there is a general torque chart on page 2-12 that calls for 22 ft lbs for a 14mm nut on a 10mm bolt which, unless I am wrong, is what sized fasteners are on the rear sprocket. To some that may seem a little low but the manual also calls for self-loccking nuts. One thing to remember, and not to insult anyones intelligence, is that torques specs are determined by the type/size/grade of fateners used and the application in which they are used (shear, torsion, etc.). I'm certainly no engineer but I've been a helicopter mechanic for a long time and torque principles are a part of my everyday life. I'd be much more willing to accept 22 ft lbs especially knowing the steel sprocket studs are mounted in a cast aluminum hub. Of course this tq value is for the stock steel nuts. Aluminum or titanium nuts will have their own tq spec.
 
#14 ·
So I just replaced my sprox and ran into the same problem and I see how u stripped the studs! I found 72ftlbs also so thinkkng that was wrong I decided to work my way up starting around 40 ... Then 50 ... Then 55 ... Then 60 and when I got to around 65 it became so tight that the studs started to turn in the sprocket housing so I left them there!!! Even the svc manager at my dealer was shocked by the mumber whn i called and asked ... If anybody goes further with this and gets an answer please post it!!!!
 
#16 ·
I would be reluctant to call it a "misprint" as the new manual for 2015 model has the same torque value - 100 Nm (72 lbf) It might seem like a lot, but these are class 8.8 nuts and the proof load for them is over 50 KN. (That's over 5 tons!)
I would be more inclined to think that the problem here is :
1. your torque wrench - like any mechanical measuring device it needs maintenance and periodic calibration. So when was the last time you had it checked?

2. your technique. - any joint with multiple bolts/nuts in a single plane need to be done in stages - building to the recommended value in 2-3 goes.

3. preparation - in the factory the studs are pre-treated with a retaining compound (it saves the time and mess on the assembly line). Its a one off deal and after the nut is removed it needs to be thoroughly cleaned off. Wire-brush will not do, use a die and run it down the whole thread of the stud and tap to clean the nut. Apply the required grade of locktite before assembling it all back.
I have never in my life stripped threads by doing it this way and using torque values from the workshop manual.