Anyone?

 

just keep it on a battery tender.I have been doing this on my 05 for 2 yr's.works great!

 

The problem is I can't put it on the tender if I'm out. It' happened to me tonight. I went to my cousin's house and played poker. When I left at 11:00 at night my bike wouldn't start. Here's what I did today. I started the bike up at about 12:00 in the afternoon. I didn't have any problems. I went to buy cigarettes. after that it started up with no issues and I went home. Around 2:00 I started the bike up and rode around for like 5 minutes. Took a cigarette break. The bike started up fine. Went on a 20 minute ride on the freeway to go to a BBQ. Before I got to the BBQ I needed gas. After getting gas, the bike started up fine. Got to the BBQ about 5 minutes away from the gas station. The bike sat there for a good 5 hours. When I left the BBQ to go to my cousin's house, the bike started up fine. Rode to my cousin's house (about 5 minutes away from the BBQ). The bike sat there for about 4 hours. When I was leaving it wouldn't start. I had to jump start it. Does anyone have a clue about my problem?

 

Maybe its cooler and your bike is running really rich? When I moved from AZ to CO ( a diff of about 4000 ft of elevation) when it was cold out my bike wouldn't start either... It was running so rich I had to take the PCIII off of it.

 

I'll try that tomorrow. I'll switch to a different map. But when I get those starting issues, my battery dies after one try at starting.

 

Are there any Yamaha techs in here that could help me?
Am I the only one having this problem?

 

So once you jump start it the bike will start up again without any problems? Or do you need to charge the battery on a charger for awhile for the bike to start on its own again?

The reason I ask this is because you're charging system may be weak. Providing enough power to run the bike, but not enough to recharge the battery. I had a similar issue with a Honda motorcycle I had a few years ago. It ended up having a problem with the regulator/rectifer. Once I replaced that it charged great and I didn't have any more problems with it

 

I feel your pain... My 04 has an 06 engine in it thanks to a spun rod bearing at about 24k miles. Now the 06 engine has about 10k on it. I bought a new battery last fall and a battery tender. So, my bike will spin up just like normal and quickly slows down just like it has a dead battery... but it doesn't. Sometimes it takes 4 or 5 tries to get it started and that's AFTER a tune up. As soon as I hear it slow down I stop cranking and wait a second. So far it hasn't stranded me but I think it's going too. I spent $75 on a new relay two weeks ago and now I have a spare because that was not the problem. I have checked all the connections and I'm left with one expensive conclusion. It's the starter. I bid on one last night on eBay but lost. So there are at least 3 other people who think they need a new starter motor! A new one is $400.00!
And a royal, blood spilling pain in the ass to change. I'm going to wait till it is RIP before I blow anymore $$$. Then it should be real clear where the problem is. The starter can be repaired if you feel inclined to dig in to it but I think I'd rather swap it out. Hope that helps a little.

 

neoxaero, after I jump start it, it'll fire up on it's own. It's the craziest problem. Because I could leave my bike for 3 days of not starting, and as long as it's warm out, it'll fire right up. If it's cold, then it won't fire up and the battery dies. When I say it won't fire up, the engine will turn, but the battery starts to die.

Someone suggested that the battery could be low on cold cranking amps. What do you guys think about that? I'd hate to think both my batteries are bad.

 

Archer1, have you changed out your starter yet? if so, did it solve the problem? I ended up buying a new battery. I charged it up and I installed it yesterday. When i tried to fire it up this morning, the starter slowed down, but it fired up. I'm thinking it will eventually do the same thing the other batteries did. i took out the Power Commander and the custom LED relay to rule out any electricals that I've added. so I am going to wait till tonight when it's cold to see if it will still fire up. If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know.

 

i have read some other posts here about this problem. in some cases, the starters were trying to draw such a ridiculous amount of amperage that the battery could only keep up for a few seconds. my starter is a bit of a PITA too when it is cold. so far, it always starts if it has been on the battery tender while parked, but if i dont remember to go back out and put it on the tender and leave it for a few days, it has the same symptoms as the other posters. at that point, its even hard to start with a car running and jumper cables hooked up to it. this leads me to believe the starter is trying to draw way more amperage than it should be.

 

starting issue

Hello,
I have a 2005 R1 and I am currently having the same problems. The first time this happened I checked the relay, got a brand new battery etc. I then took it in and was told my starter was bad. So I spent the 400 for a new one and had it replaced. This was at about 3000 miles on the bike. Now at 7000 I have the exact same problem. The bike slowly got worse and now it wont start at all. I hope the starter is not bad AGAIN but I know now something else is causing the problem. Anyone have any input I am sick of dumping wasted money into this problem!!

-Matt

 

Well the new used starter did fix my problem... but not at first. This was an old starter from an 04 and my bike has an 06 engine. I have no idea how long it sat without use. Anyway it was drawing a lot of current pulling the battery down and getting the wires hot. Not normal. So I got pissed and pulled the motor lead off the relay and just ran the crap out of the starter. I did let it cool in between runs but after a while it started to speed up and sound normal. The lead also stopped getting hot. I have no idea what changed but it's fine so far.
Then I took the old one from the 06 engine apart and found it had oil in it and the armature was really cruddy. So does any one know if it should have oil inside? It doesn't seem right that it would because there is a seal on the shaft positioned to keep engine oil out. Any ideas? The factory manual doesn't say to put any oil in prior to reassembly so I'm guessing the seal failed and that caused my problem with the first starter. What a pain!!!!

 

It's been awhile, but I had to deal with losing my job and my house. Lucky for me I still have my bike. Only thing is, I still have this problem. Anyone find any answers yet? I slowly starting to get money in again, so I'd like to get this problem resolved, but I don't have enough money to experiment.

 

1. last, when did u change your battery?
2. is it MF battery? or need water level to be checked?
3. check the battery voltage and then take the load test. Sometimes voltage stays 12 but in load test battery fails due to bad cell or weak cell.
4. check the fuse connection and battery terminals if they are loose.
5. Check your charging system. your battery should be more than 12 when the engine and ignition switch is off. And in engine running condition it should go beyond 13V might reach till 14/15v. if it fails to go above 12V then you have either stator or RR unit problem.
You have only battery issue.

 

Go look at Bohannonbattey.com they have the best prices and free shipping

 

Man, if I didn't know better I'd say you stole my bike! I am having the EXACT same problem to a T. My bike pretty much left me stranded one night. Until I push started it. It starts fine in the day when it's warm, but when it's cold it just has the hardest time starting. And i live in Phoenix, so night time is only down in the 50's!

I work until midnight, so I am desperately trying to find out the issue. In an experiment, I have been going on my lunch break, around 9 or so, and starting it before it gets too cold. I let it warm up and run for a few minutes. When I do this, I generally don't have a problem starting it at midnight. I put in a new battery 2 weeks ago, so I know it's not that. If anybody knows the answer please let us know!

 

i had the exact same issues with my 09..
i got a new battery about 2 weeks ago.. actually i got two..
first a cheap AUS$80 one made in china (Aero)..
got home straight from the shop and put it in.. and still didn't start..
so i asked friend who has been in the motorcycle business for over 30 years
and he said it was a battery problem but don't waste time with a cheap china made battery!!
so following day i go and get myself a new yuasa battery and a ctek charger.. guy who sold the battery says that his batteries are always fully charged when sold..
this time the bike fires up straight away..
i got a multimeter and check the voltages..
original yuasa that was in the bike 12.5V
the Aero batt 12.2V
and the new yuasa 12.8V
all this was about 2 weeks ago, and since the new battery haven't had any issues..
even though the Aero was brand new it wasn't fully charged when sold to me
batteries will sit on the shelf for sometime and when its sold will have dissipated somewhat.. make sure the batt u get is at full charge before install

 

Alriight, I think I solved this problem. Everyone kept telling me it was my battery, charging system, or rectifier. I knew it wasn?t my battery, because I went through 3 of them. First off, I?m on a real tight budget and I can?t afford to buy any parts. Someone said it could be my starter. It made sense, since it seems like the starter is the one that is drawing all the power out of the batter when I try to start it. So this is what I did. I took the tank off and made sure the battery was fully charged. I cleaned and inspected all the connectors on the bike to make sure it wasn?t something as simple as a burnt connector. With the tank off, I held down the starter button till the battery drained. Then I charged up the battery again. I kept doing this till the starter started to run freely. I did this about 6-10 times. It started off like that battery wasn?t strong enough to run the starter, but by the end, the starter was running really strong. I put everything back on the bike, and now it fires up easily. The start seems stronger than it did when I first bought my bike brand new. Now it doesn?t drain the battery. I wanna take the starter out and completely clean it now that I know the problem was the starter. I know some people might say that this might mess up your bike, but I?m on a budget, and don?t have a lot of tools. I?m just glad that after dealing with this for over a year, my R1 is back to being reliable again.

 

Someone else posted up the very same "fix" for their starter a while ago.
Running the shit out of it must clean up the contact point inside.
And best of all IT'S FREE.

Nice :fact

 

04-06 R1 starting issues

Hey guys I"m on my 3rd R1, yes 3rd....1st was an 05, then 2 diff 06's and had the same exact same problems on EVERY ONE...If this wasn't the sexiest bike ever made I would have never bought another one...had them in the shop several times to no avail...had starters rebuilt, changed ecu's, bought several batteries,still same prob...if the battery and charging system checks out, IT'S NOT THE BATTERY...well it may be if you buy them cheap ass chinese ones....yuusa are great....with my current 06 R1 it sounds like the batt is dead but def is not, I just hold the starter button down till it eventually starts....or I crank it for a few seconds, if it does not start i wait 20 seconds try again...it will eventually start but sometimes takes a few tries...its something with the starter not getting enough amps...remember I've had 2 diff starters cleaned and rebuilt and had the same exact prob afterwards with a new battery...my sugestion is to try and get a dry cel or a batt with a few more cca's or try what this guy did which is a great idea instead of pulling out the starter which is NOT fun....~~~~~~> So this is what I did. I took the tank off and made sure the battery was fully charged. I cleaned and inspected all the connectors on the bike to make sure it wasn?t something as simple as a burnt connector. With the tank off, I held down the starter button till the battery drained. Then I charged up the battery again. I kept doing this till the starter started to run freely. I did this about 6-10 times. It started off like that battery wasn?t strong enough to run the starter, but by the end, the starter was running really strong. I put everything back on the bike, and now it fires up easily. The start seems stronger than it did when I first bought my bike brand new. Now it doesn?t drain the battery. I wanna take the starter out and completely clean it now that I know the problem was the starter. I know some people might say that this might mess up your bike, but I?m on a budget, and don?t have a lot of tools. I?m just glad that after dealing with this for over a year, my R1 is back to being reliable again.

 

Question on methond?

Just to clarify are you telling me all you did was remove the tank so the bike wasn't getting gas and run the starter until the battery was dead, then charge and did this a few times? Or did you go through the hassle of pulling the starter and then running the starter on its own to clear it? I am unlucky enough to have this happen on my bike also.

Hey guys I"m on my 3rd R1, yes 3rd....1st was an 05, then 2 diff 06's and had the same exact same problems on EVERY ONE...If this wasn't the sexiest bike ever made I would have never bought another one...had them in the shop several times to no avail...had starters rebuilt, changed ecu's, bought several batteries,still same prob...if the battery and charging system checks out, IT'S NOT THE BATTERY...well it may be if you buy them cheap ass chinese ones....yuusa are great....with my current 06 R1 it sounds like the batt is dead but def is not, I just hold the starter button down till it eventually starts....or I crank it for a few seconds, if it does not start i wait 20 seconds try again...it will eventually start but sometimes takes a few tries...its something with the starter not getting enough amps...remember I've had 2 diff starters cleaned and rebuilt and had the same exact prob afterwards with a new battery...my sugestion is to try and get a dry cel or a batt with a few more cca's or try what this guy did which is a great idea instead of pulling out the starter which is NOT fun....~~~~~~> So this is what I did. I took the tank off and made sure the battery was fully charged. I cleaned and inspected all the connectors on the bike to make sure it wasn?t something as simple as a burnt connector. With the tank off, I held down the starter button till the battery drained. Then I charged up the battery again. I kept doing this till the starter started to run freely. I did this about 6-10 times. It started off like that battery wasn?t strong enough to run the starter, but by the end, the starter was running really strong. I put everything back on the bike, and now it fires up easily. The start seems stronger than it did when I first bought my bike brand new. Now it doesn?t drain the battery. I wanna take the starter out and completely clean it now that I know the problem was the starter. I know some people might say that this might mess up your bike, but I?m on a budget, and don?t have a lot of tools. I?m just glad that after dealing with this for over a year, my R1 is back to being reliable again.

 

I honestly never tried the above method, but it seems like a feasible idea...I am still having this problem on my 06' but all summer I have been keeping it on a battery tender when I am not riding it and it starts every time i try it...I would try the above method with the starter on the bike, yes cut the gas off and just let the starter spin...this may work, this may not..? but its worth a shot...Ive 2 had starters rebuilt and put them back in and the same exact problem, so I'm pretty sure it's not the actual starter...so I really think it has something to do with the starter not getting enough power...this problem seems to be pretty common on this year of r1's...hope this help you out brother...