well i got my fast card gen 3 from CYCLECONNECTION for my race baffle 07 R1 and first off let me say WOW. the install takes minutes, it took more time taking the seat off and proping up the tank then puting the fast card in. well after the install i took her for a ride and i dont know if its me but the exhaust has a different note (sounds really nice) and there is a noticable difference in power and response. this thing pulls like a beast!!!
kozumasbullitt
Yes,
It does change Exhaust tone, it did it to mine. I told you it was the real deal. I'm glad your happy with the FASTCARD GEN III.
Stan
It does change Exhaust tone, it did it to mine. I told you it was the real deal. I'm glad your happy with the FASTCARD GEN III.
Stan
Another happy customer, it's starting to spread the word is getting out the FAST CARD IS THE TRUTH what you will soon realize is how much faster your getting to your peak HP, I'm curious to see how mucm HP/TQ you are making on your local dyno I whatched stan1 get tuned and he put down 171.5 HP on a land and air dyno which reads low, if your local tuner uses a dynojet it will read much higher. All I can say is enjoy it because I'm enjoying mine.:drunk:
I just got off the phone with Shawn and he said that it is best to have the card set up for each bike. If the card is $269 and I can buy a PCIII for $258 how is the card cheaper?
If you find someone in the Detroit area that is good with the FAST CARD please let me know. If I do I will pass it along as well.
I never knew about cycle connection, its only 15 min from me in germantown. I'm going to have to pick up a gen3 and see what all this hype is about.
i think the fast card is a great new option, if you like the powercommander then great, but if you want to try something new then go for it. i got screwed on my wideband from dynojet and the techs said myself and a few other members here who had it were wrong and not the product...... the wideband was a piece!!!! shaun from cycle connection called me to check if my package had arrived, called me to give me install directions and tips and then called again to see how i liked the results and to give me some fine tunning pointers. that is service!!!!!!!! so if your open to a new product from a great guy willing to help in anyway, why not try it out?
ok this sounds good so no mapping to be done just plug in and go?.. i want to do the race baffle the y pipe and a filter
Thanks
Thanks
i still want to know how the fast card works and what adjustments you can make with it.
im not doubting it, as obviously a few of you are very happpy with it, but so far on the 3 or 4 posts that have started about this there is nothing about how it works. im not talking about marketing speak im talking about how it works. also is it able to make the secondary throtle blades open further below the preset rpm's on the 07 and if so how.
im not doubting it, as obviously a few of you are very happpy with it, but so far on the 3 or 4 posts that have started about this there is nothing about how it works. im not talking about marketing speak im talking about how it works. also is it able to make the secondary throtle blades open further below the preset rpm's on the 07 and if so how.
isnt shawn who has posted on here, including recently in the for sale section where you are selling your pc??
why cant anyone post up how it works and what you can adjust???
and one dyno comparison where with the pc it was tuned too rich and the fast card made more hp imo because it was tuned to be a little leaner then the pc doesnt really say much. The claim to fame as far as i can tell is its load based. An inertia dyno is not good a reproducing load so what does it really prove??
Im not trying to argue which is better I just want information so i can make up my own mind
why cant anyone post up how it works and what you can adjust???
and one dyno comparison where with the pc it was tuned too rich and the fast card made more hp imo because it was tuned to be a little leaner then the pc doesnt really say much. The claim to fame as far as i can tell is its load based. An inertia dyno is not good a reproducing load so what does it really prove??
Im not trying to argue which is better I just want information so i can make up my own mind
I have read all the threads and noticed that every body is adding fuel, correct me if I am wrong but can the gen III take away fuel if need be.
I'm curious how this new product bypasses the restrictions on the Factory ECU..... You stated the PCIII can't do anything below a certain rpm. well that's not true at all, it was only referring to 100% throttle opening adjustments.
Also, I'm vary curious why Stan is pimping this product so much?
That said, is this new company a site sponsor? if not they might be getting a bill for sponsorship. If you read the rules clearly on the forum you might be suprised.
Also, I'm vary curious why Stan is pimping this product so much?
That said, is this new company a site sponsor? if not they might be getting a bill for sponsorship. If you read the rules clearly on the forum you might be suprised.
will this product work with an igntion module or not. Also what about a quickshifter. I know these prodcuts are piggybacked off of the pc3.:secret:
Stan, please don't get offended, it was not meant to piss you off, you seem to be cool, I just asked the question is all.
You were bagging on the PCIII saying it's useless under 9k or something when in fact that's not true... so I wondered why you loved this new one so much.
The simple fact is that hardly anyone has any experience tuning this new one so that alone will make it next to impossible to get it mapped correctly.
NOT many shops want to waste time learning something new that only a couple people will pay them to tune.
Just my .02 anyway.
You were bagging on the PCIII saying it's useless under 9k or something when in fact that's not true... so I wondered why you loved this new one so much.
The simple fact is that hardly anyone has any experience tuning this new one so that alone will make it next to impossible to get it mapped correctly.
NOT many shops want to waste time learning something new that only a couple people will pay them to tune.
Just my .02 anyway.
http://www.dobeckperformance.com/TF...nce.com/TFI INSTRUCTIONS/Sportbike Tuning/Understanding the pots sport bike.pdf
Simply put, the way i read the .pdf is that the TFI GEN3 modulates the stock ECU fuel output signal according to four simultaneous functions each of which have an adjustable gain.
Note that fuel injection tuning and control philosophies are reasonably sophisticated systems. When you add something like this to an existing system then you have to understand how the standard FI system works AND understand how the add-on works if you want to be able to understand the result of combining the two. These are waveforms not discreet little boxes.
I see people keep saying it is a load based tuning philosophy, i would love to hear about how they are defining this concept of load based tuning. Because it adds different fuel at different RPM? hehe a PC3 can do that and different amounts at different % throttle openings.
The air fuel idle mixture can already be adjusted using the stock ECU, however i note that this is combined with the 4th setting in that .pdf document which sets an RPM which the idle fuel mix algorithm is disabled which is an interesting combination.
Simply put, the way i read the .pdf is that the TFI GEN3 modulates the stock ECU fuel output signal according to four simultaneous functions each of which have an adjustable gain.
Note that fuel injection tuning and control philosophies are reasonably sophisticated systems. When you add something like this to an existing system then you have to understand how the standard FI system works AND understand how the add-on works if you want to be able to understand the result of combining the two. These are waveforms not discreet little boxes.
I see people keep saying it is a load based tuning philosophy, i would love to hear about how they are defining this concept of load based tuning. Because it adds different fuel at different RPM? hehe a PC3 can do that and different amounts at different % throttle openings.
The air fuel idle mixture can already be adjusted using the stock ECU, however i note that this is combined with the 4th setting in that .pdf document which sets an RPM which the idle fuel mix algorithm is disabled which is an interesting combination.
Ok the GenIII demo says POWERcard in the top left graphic not fastcard... I believe this is the hardware you guys are refering to... correct me if i'm wrong.
http://www.powercardtuning.com/products/motorcycles/yamaha.aspx?PlateIndexID=54271
R1 Dav3... this also has the definition of load based tuning people were refering to that you wanted to know
http://www.powercardtuning.com/support/load.aspx
http://www.powercardtuning.com/products/motorcycles/yamaha.aspx?PlateIndexID=54271
R1 Dav3... this also has the definition of load based tuning people were refering to that you wanted to know
http://www.powercardtuning.com/support/load.aspx
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