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What kind of antifreeze should you run in the R1....or any motorcycle?

6.4K views 16 replies 11 participants last post by  thwwx  
#1 ·
I read an article a few years back that explained that regular automotive antifreeze was really hard on aluminum and plastic parts that make up a typical Japanese waterpump ..........they said it was really abrasive and would wear things out in a hurry. :scared .....A car's cast iron parts can handle it much better.



.....They did mention a few brands that were safe to use, but I can't remember what they were anymore. :confused:


....anyone have more info on this ??
 
#2 ·
I've been running the Honda cycle coolant pre-mix (50/50) w/ no problems whatsoever. Alot of people will say to mix this or that, but a bike coolant made for bikes and premixed for very cheap price per quart is worth it to me. Just flush, refill and go.
 
#4 ·
Diamond said:
Don't kid yourself go down to your local motorcycle shop and pick up some "Engine Ice" Bike WILL run cooler.
I've heard some mixed reviews regarding that stuff, some actually said it ran hotter?? Can't remember where I got that off of. Have you been having good experiences with it? Better than water wetter?
 
#5 ·
I have been running it in my bikes for years and without question it does work, and well. I ride a lot of dirt, today I was riding in 90+ heat up hills that turned the other 4 stroke that was with me into a steam kettle. Yes it does work.Try it it runs about 16.00 bucks per bottle.
 
#6 ·
Crimson Rush said:
I've heard some mixed reviews regarding that stuff, some actually said it ran hotter?? Can't remember where I got that off of. Have you been having good experiences with it? Better than water wetter?
Living in IL I'd say you better not go to something like Water Wetter only. Come winter you'll be sorry. Water Wetter is strictly a coolant. Engine Ice is a coolant, but also an anti-freeze so you won't have any problems with freeze up unless of course it gets to 30 below there. :D

As far as anti freeze goes, you just want to make sure whatever you use is silicate free.
 
#7 ·
Hood Ornament said:
Living in IL I'd say you better not go to something like Water Wetter only. Come winter you'll be sorry. Water Wetter is strictly a coolant. Engine Ice is a coolant, but also an anti-freeze so you won't have any problems with freeze up unless of course it gets to 30 below there. :D

As far as anti freeze goes, you just want to make sure whatever you use is silicate free.

Thinking about it more, I seem to remember that Toyota antifreeze was one of the brands that was ok to use. Maybe I will just go to the bike shop and see what they recommend.

....that silicate stuff was what did the damage.... thanks for the ideas. :)
 
#8 ·
I use watter wetter in both my bikes here out West. I don't have to worry about the anti-freeze properties as it never gets close to freezing.
 
#10 ·
Water wetter and distilled water. :iamwithst
 
#12 ·
r1nmegofast said:
Why not just do it by the book and run Yamacool? I'm sure it's good stuff.
If you do trackdays, you can't run any coolant with glycol. Stuff is slicker than oil if it gets on the track in a crash, so many trackday providers won't let you through tech if there's any green showing in your coolant.

Those of us who live in Cali are unlikely to get a hard freeze where antifreeze is going to make a difference.

Redline Water Wetter is track legal. In bikes like my Triumph, which are notorious for running hot, Water Wetter keeps them running 20% cooler or more than 50/50 glycol antifreeze mix.
 
#13 ·
Yeah I know all that about the freeze up's etc., I never took the short bus.

RLMEsq-

Have you noticed a significant temp difference when running water/water wetter in your R1? If so even if you don't do track days it would still be majorly worth it to run the water wetter, then just swap out before winter w/ regular antifreeze. I'm sure the bike would appreciate a coolant swap once or twice a year. If the water wetter is really that good I'll try it, was going to switch when I started doing trackdays (this July!!), but I'd like to see how it performs on the street as well. 20% cooler is huge, it gets hot as hell here in the summer. Even though most of the roads we ride things never really get a chance to overheat.
 
#14 ·
I run water wetter and distilled water for most of the year. We do get some cold weather for a few months so I swap it out with anti-freeze during those months. I do notice a diffrence in the temp running lower with ww/water by about 10 degrees.

Larry
 
#15 ·
ltyson said:
I run water wetter and distilled water for most of the year. We do get some cold weather for a few months so I swap it out with anti-freeze during those months. I do notice a diffrence in the temp running lower with ww/water by about 10 degrees.

Larry
Excellent! Thanks for the input Larry. Now where to get the stuff? I hate the local stealer.
 
#16 ·
Crimson Rush said:
RLMEsq-

Have you noticed a significant temp difference when running water/water wetter in your R1? If so even if you don't do track days it would still be majorly worth it to run the water wetter, then just swap out before winter w/ regular antifreeze.
Can't really tell... when the bike went in for 600 mile service, more than half the miles were on the track. Swapping coolant was one of the first things I did.

It does make my 955i run a lot cooler, and they are notoriously hot running, especially in Northern California where 100+ days are routine.

I think most Kragen/Pep Boys kind of stores carry Water Wetter. Runs about five bucks a bottle... takes just a tiny amount, so it will last you forever.
 
#17 ·
Water wetter says in the instructions on the back to add a little (15%) regular glycol antifreeze for 'street', any idea what's the rationale behind that? It also says it does not protect magnesium, just wondering if this applies to any part of our cooling system? I know some cam heads are Mg alloy, but cooling system?