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Whats the big Deal? (HP Battle)

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#1 ·
You know what, everyone's always talking about GSXR-1000 vs 02 R-1. Well, I'm sitting here looking at the dyno stats from a Gixxer, and it dynoed 143.6hp @10,500 RPM. It was posted earlier on this forum that the 02 R-1 put out roughly 136 bhp stock.... So throw on a pipe and power commander and We R-1 owners are right up there with the Horsepower King. The gap isnt that big...

Besides its all in the rider right? I'd rather have an R-1 on a track day than a Suzook anyways...

Any monkey with a right arm can twist the throttle in a straight....

See you in the turns!
PHil

What a GSXR-1000 is NOT supposed to look like ( you should see the other side, its worse!)
Image
 
#2 ·
What happens when you put an exhaust on the already more powerful suzuki?

Ive ridden both of these bikes, and the difference is not as big as the media makes it out to be. Seems as if they want to hype it up, so they can sell a few more.

The numbers posted by Pedro are nice, but it takes a skilled rider to use these bikes potential.

Ricardo
 
#3 ·
I laugh at people who brag about having a couple extra horsepower because half of the time they're posers. What matters more is where you're getting that horsepower in relation to how you ride. Also, for all the riders you hear claiming how much they ride the twisties you never hear them talk about torque which, in my book, is far more important in the twisties than peak horsepower.
 
#5 ·
If you put a full exhaust on a GSXR 1000 you better put on a power commander and remap....reason being,I went to a dyno day last weekend and my buds stock 1000 ran 156 RWHP and another guy(who I do not know) had a full Akra system with nothing else and he was running a whopping 129 RWHP. Man I would be pissed
 
#7 ·
KneeDragger77 said:
You know what, everyone's always talking about GSXR-1000 vs 02 R-1. Well, I'm sitting here looking at the dyno stats from a Gixxer, and it dynoed 143.6hp @10,500 RPM. It was posted earlier on this forum that the 02 R-1 put out roughly 136 bhp stock.... So throw on a pipe and power commander and We R-1 owners are right up there with the Horsepower King. The gap isnt that big...

Besides its all in the rider right? I'd rather have an R-1 on a track day than a Suzook anyways...

Any monkey with a right arm can twist the throttle in a straight....

See you in the turns!
PHil

What a GSXR-1000 is NOT supposed to look like ( you should see the other side, its worse!)
Image
KneeDragger,

It is not just the HP difference, it is also the torque and most importantly the RamAir!;)
I think it is not hard for you to believe that a guy who had 2 R1, love the looks of the bike and the behaviour of the bike on the streets, therefore please do not read my words as a chalenge to you or to any R1 Owner, if we were on the road the case would be different...:machinegu
Tomorrow Ill pick up my Gixxer 1000, I checked everything I found important on each bike and decided to buy the Gixxer because it is more powerfull, more stable at high speeds (not that I pass the speed limits
:D ) and more confortable.
The R1 flicks quicker, looks nicer and it is brand new!:thumbup
The proof that you care about horsepower is the bike you bought, why havent you bought an R6 ?;)
 
#8 ·
ricardo said:
What happens when you put an exhaust on the already more powerful suzuki?

Ive ridden both of these bikes, and the difference is not as big as the media makes it out to be. Seems as if they want to hype it up, so they can sell a few more.

The numbers posted by Pedro are nice, but it takes a skilled rider to use these bikes potential.

Ricardo
Hi Ricardo,

Couldnt agree with you more, it is the rider that matters, so if you put the same rider on the two bikes the faster will be the Gixxer user, dont you agree?

Your comments seem honest and fair and I believe the difference is not big, but when I buy a bike I want the best and for me at the moment the Gixxer rules.

In 2000 I asked myself the same question RR or R1, as the R1 had more power I choosed the R1, eventhough the RR was completly new.
 
#10 ·
Pedro said:


Hi Ricardo,

Couldnt agree with you more, it is the rider that matters, so if you put the same rider on the two bikes the faster will be the Gixxer user, dont you agree?
Totally agree with that. The reason the Yamaha R1 has attained such a high level of respect is because it followed what the 900rr did when it came out. They should make a new motorcycle category "crazy powerful sportbikes". I hope that yamaha in 2003 makes the r1 come a bit closer in hp figures to the gsxr1000, or better yet make it more crazy powerful.

Im going to wait until a yamaha, honda, suzuki etc.. make 200rwhp bike, then i will buy that one. And i dont care if people call me a poser, i like to tell myself how powerful my r1 is, much more powerful than i will ever be.

There are other cool bikes out there with less hp, like the rc51, ducati 998 etc.. Different bikes for different people i guess.

Ricardo
 
#12 ·
Flystar said:
Just read the press for which is NUMERO UNO. For example:-

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/bikes...est?sectionID=50685&documentID=137961&bikeSectionID=57280&bikeDocumentID=133655

There can be only ONE!!!

GIXXERS ARE HISTORY, WATCH YOUR MIRRORS SUZI BOYS!!!

Fly
Thank's a lot fly I still havent read thei shootout although I knew the final results and final conclusions.

I choose some of the most important statements for me:

"But a fast lap the wrong way round Ledenon loads the suspension more, revealing an R1 at maximum lean with bottomed-out suspension loses out by a couple of degrees to the GSX-R.

But the test criteria was much more than finding out which bike goes fastest on the roads or around a circuit – the Dutch-registered GSX-R won, by the way, with a kph-indicated equivalent of 186mph.

Ground clearance is spot-on, with only the right side touching down at silly cornering speeds. The GSX-R’s was better, if you discounted the ease with which you can touch its pegs down. Scrape the can and underside of a GSX-R and you’re really motoring.

(Blade)
The turning circle is as good as the R1’s, but not as good as the GSX-R’s and the bike has better luggage-carrying capacity than either, thanks to prominent bungee fixing points.

The GSX-R is still well ahead in engine terms, with more horsepower than its rivals and superior torque.

The handling was pretty spot-on, but couldn’t quite match the quick-turning Blade or super-poised and responsive R1 overall.

The brakes, though excellent, can’t match the R1 or Blade’s.

the GSX-R is the tightest turner of them all at low speed, scoring a perfect 10 for its turning circle.

The R1, GSX-R and Blade all showed huge strengths in some areas and slight weaknesses in others, with the result that all three scored 64 out of a possible 70. Which is YOUR winner depends on what you need the bike to do. Use our panels to help you decide.
If you ask us to pick a winner, it’s a very, very, tight decision. But if the keys to the four bikes were on the table and we could only taken one set, it would be the R1."
:thumbup

I'm glad I choose the Gixxer, for me the engine the stability and the corner speeds are more important than the looks!;)
 
#13 ·
but which one is the BEST...

MCN Quote "If you ask us to pick a winner, it’s a very, very, tight decision. But if the keys to the four bikes were on the table and we could only taken one set, it would be the R1."

No hard feelings but you have bought 2nd best!!

good bike though.

Fly
 
#14 ·
Fly,

I've posted the same question in the Gixxer forum, guess what a guy from Germany posted!

"The "PS Sport-Motorrad Magazin", one of the most read sport bike magazines in Germany, voted the Suzuki GSX-R No.1 sportbike of the year.

4 bikes were in the shoot-out.
Honda Fireblade, Kawasaki ZX-9R,Suzuki GSX-R 1000 and the Yamaha R1 (all 02' models).
1st : Suzuki
2nd : Honda
3rd : Kawasaki
4th : Yamaha

According to the PS magazine the new Yamaha has weak breaks and a steering damper is still missing.

Greetings from Europe where "the chief on the ring is still the GSX-R 1000"

What I'm trying to prove is that it depends on your prioritis, if you prefer a better looking bike that leans well and as a good engine buy the Yamm, if you want the best engine, the most stable at high speeds and the fastest in the corners buy the Gixxer.

Concerning what the journalists write, I always read it but they are guys like us, each one have their opinion.:yesnod

Still love the R1, but for the moment I want a true:machinegu
 
#15 ·
It's not just the chart power, the suzuki has Ram air which give load more up top. I have been doning 170 when a Suzuki frien of mine came past me like I was going backwards! Also, I have seen a video from the tank of a GIXER thou at Nagaro, South France. this bike hit 185MPH before having to brake, The best of the R1's made a little over 170MPH!!