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Wheeling a Mtb

1.5K views 9 replies 4 participants last post by  turbonutter  
#1 ·
Bit of a strange question to ask on the r1 forum, but whats the best way to wheely a mtb?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!

I used to wheely a bmx for miles when i was a kid, no problems, but i bought a mountain bike last year after about 14 years away from push bikes and cant wheely it to save my life. I am still struggling to get the hang of riding a 2 wheeled thing with no engine in it! Firstly it isnt fast enough for me, secondly i keep trying to rev it and change down a gear everytime i slow down. And thirdly i cant believe how light the steering is!!!!

The mtb shop set the saddle quite high up, so at 6ft im on tip toes when i stop. They reckoned this was how it should be. Now, i remember when i used to wheely my bmx i used to have the saddle a lot lower, as i found i could get the front up easier with it.

So whats the best way to get the mtb up? should i be in a really high gear where im peddling like mad to get more drive? and yank hard on the bars? should i lower the seat a bit? Im not exactly weak in the arms, but i cant get it up more than about a foot atm, nowhere even removely near a balancing point. And please dont say "clutch it up!!!!" ;) LOL!
 
#2 ·
you should powerwheelie that thing :D

No really. One feeling I love one playing with the Mtb is when I'm say in 3rd gear and just peddling and using leg strength to wheelie the bike. As soon as I'm high enough I shift up to say 15th gear.. (2nd biggest sprocket in front and around middle in rear sprockets).
If I'm gonna go real fast.. it's just to shift up to 24th which is the highest gear.

I've also managed to slow down as I wheelie the Mtb.. from 24th down to almost stand still and then continue.

But the bike is catching so damn well in windy conditions. I hate that.. so it's got to be almost wind still to be able to pull something like that off.


So regarding balancing the Mtb.
Start by lowering the seat. Apparently you don't like the hight it's at currently. Don't lower it down completely. Start with lowering it just a few inches.

What kind of rubber do you have on? is it dirt/street or what? I got a mix between slicks and dirt (mostly slick). Also make sure you got a good tire pressure. They harder the rear tire is the better balance.

Leave the front tire pressure pretty low so that when you land the wheelie you won't destroy the bearings in the steering (mine's completely broken).

If you're not able to shift as you wheelie the Mtb.. begin in a higher gear.. around 15th gear (2nd, middle) and use your legs and just peddle as you give a slight tug in the bar. It's still all about technique.
I bring mine up in 24th gear if I wanna.. no problem at all really. And you know how slow you pedal in that gear....


Now I got all horny to wheelie the Mtb.. BRB :D
 
#3 ·
Ta, another thing tho, my mtb has full suspension front and back, so i think that tends to assorb some of my peddling power, so presumably i will have to set that up really hard?

I have off-roadish knobbly sortta tyres on it which were on it when i bought the bike. Its not a really expensive mtb.

I think lowering the seat may help me have more control over the bike, and i think i need to play with the gears more.

What tyre pressures are good on a Mtb? 36psi? 40psi?

I"ll have a play later on and see what i can do.

Cheers!
 
#4 ·
I use the middle sprocket front, and usually the number 2 or 3 rear. It's pretty easy to get it up that way. Then I just lean back and balance, control it with your rear brake. By the way, what kind of Bicycle to you all have? Just wandering. I have a Giant Rainier, Jamis Dakar Sport Full Suspension, and a Specialized Allez Comp Road bike. I just love two wheels!!!!!
 
#5 ·
Saddle Height: You want only a slight bend in your leg at the bottom of your stroke. I couldn't put both of my feet on the ground while in the seat. Believe it or not it's easier, cause you can just peddle real hard and lean back and it will come right up. Also much easier to do a headstand on a Bicycle.
 
#6 ·
turbonutter, do set up that suspension to the hardest setting. Not sure how many PSI to use, but hard tires is good. Not stone hard, but hard.

Do change tires if you use the bike

I got a CyclePro - Stonypoint Mtb
...with no suspensions. I don't like having a suspension on the Mtb. I'm not exactly out in the woods ...

and of course you have to cover the rear brake. Hurt a lot flipping it :D
 
#7 · (Edited)
I have a Marin Mt Vision.
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I've been pretty stoked with it. Manitou SRX forks, Fox Vanilla Air shock, and full XT. I'm finally getting the suspension dialed for the crazy stuff in my area (Anadel State Park in Ca is considered to be one of the top 10, although it's a boulderfest). I've been really diggin' hammering the trails in the afternoon, after hammering the canyons in the morning... (aside from the rock I punch my right b-cheek down on last weekend - the bruise is still growing).


I can't wheelie it to save my live though. I can get it up in third, but only for a few feet. I either can't get it to the balance point, or I hammer past it, and with the SPDs it's a recipe for disaster....

Lates,
Scott
 
#8 · (Edited)
Well, went out last night on the mtb and was well supprised at how easy it was to get it up! Middle cog on the front & biggest cog or 2nd biggest on the back. Came up well quick. I practised for about 30mins or so, and have nearly got the hang of keeping it at the balance point. I could keep it up just under the balance point whilst pedaling for a little while. Only went over the balance point once, but bought it back down safely.

Pulled one wheelie for about 6 seconds, much to a gang of bmx-kids supprise! They couldnt believe a grown man was pulling wheelies on a push bike! hehehe.

Biggest problem i find is pulling it up straight. And thinking about it, i have the same prob on the r1 sometimes. It seems to come up sideways if im not carefull, which means i have to put it straight back down and nearly fall off!

Was excellent fun tho messing about on the mtb. Bought back loads of memories of when i was 14 and spent all day on my bmx.
 
#9 ·
hehe lovely! Why care about the age of your body.. you're still young in mind.. they say :D

I was out doing 4th gear wheelies on the highway (little traffic...) and took curves. Man, that really gives you a boner.. or not. but there is so much adrenaline pumping!! Sometimes it sways like mad but just keep the throttle steady and it should stabilize.. yum!
oh.. I'm talking about the R1.. not the Mtb HAHAH
4th Gear wheelies on the highway on my Mtb would be something :bash

You are sitting down, right? not standing and peddling?
 
#10 · (Edited)
Yeah, sitting down mate. Find it easier to balance it when sitting rather than standing.

Went out again last night for a cycle ride with the girlfriend and she called me a show off as i was wheelying at every opportunity! hehehe.

Will have to get the r1 tuned and practise a bit more on that this weekend if i get time. Its got a bit of a vicious power delivery atm which isnt good when your on the back wheel.