I just finsihed the MARRC school and I thought it was awesome. The main theme of their school is racing safely, recognizing track conditions, picking good lines and being smooth. I'd recommend it to anyone, although I'm not sure they are in your area. I'm not stopping there personally, I'm signed up for the California Superbike School program as well. I'd like to do the Schawantz school at some point though. I'm sure the seasoned racers here will tell you that you need to get as many laps as you can afford after you finish getting some formal instruction.

 

No point in going to a race school to learn lines, track conditions etc, until you understand the geometery of your motorcycle, how to set it up, and understand how it works...

I would recommend Super Rave Rosno's Team Vision Sports Class....

He will teach you how to become a faster rider by understanding how to communcate and understand feedback from your bike...

www.teamvisionsports.com

 

Only one school that I would recommend and that's Keith Codes California superbike school :thumbup

 

Kinsey racing school here. Two thumbs up.

http://www.kinseyracingschool.com/

 

Only one school that I would recommend and that's Keith Codes California superbike school :thumbup

I've heard really good things about this one, do a search :fact



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Kinsey racing school here. Two thumbs up.

http://www.kinseyracingschool.com/

:iamwithst :thumbup :thumbup

 

No point in going to a race school to learn lines, track conditions etc, until you understand the geometery of your motorcycle, how to set it up, and understand how it works...

 

You disagree? What is the point of going to Keith Code's school if you can't communicate in the most effect way with him?

How many times have you heard people say when asked by a race instructor:

"How does the bike feal"

"OK I guess"

or

"How does the bike feal"

"Well it seems to be pushing the front a little in T3, and once entering a turn, the bike isn't giving me much feedback, and feals kinda dogged to turn"


Which rider is going to get faster at Mr. Code's school?

Not saying that going to a Race school is a waste of time, but 95% of riders don't understand suspesion well enuf to make good use of their bike at a race school...

 

All kinds of experts on here lmao

 

The whole point of doing trackdays is to learn! The best place to learn is in a school. I raced for 10 years and still help out once in a while at a race/performance riding school and I can tell you there's no better place to test and improve your skills. You don't have to worry about cars & trucks, your dressed for it, there's EMT's there if you need them, and the company of others just as excited as you to enjoy as well as learn from, no matter what level of rider you are. So to say Race Schools are a waste, or you wouldn't be able to learn or apply what you've just learned because you don't understand and your bike isn't at optimal suspension setup is totally inaccurate! A track school should be the only place to learn!



Ben and Jeff understand!

 

The whole point of doing trackdays is to learn!

You are 100% correct. However the origanl point of this thread was asking about "RACING SCHOOLS" not "Riding Schools" or "Trackdays"

I agree 100% that a Track Day is the best place to learn about Bikes, Suspension, etc.

A RACE SCHOOL is going to teach you the advanced aspects of the above, so back to my original point..

Don't take a RACE SCHOOL w/o first having the proper foundation under you, unless you just like to waste money...

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Although it is necessary to learn some fundamentals of motorcycling, I dont think you have to be an expert in any sense to start racing. If that's the case, kids that race pocketbikes or dirtbikes wouldnt be racing. There is something to be said for talent as well, and most importantly we learn when we "do." Practical application..

Should there be a minimum # of trackdays, or number of books read/tests taken before one should be considered ready? Not all people ride or race to win championships, some do it for fun. Granted, to win and excel you will need to be able to relate vital information to your crew so adjustments can be made. But, if you've got $$ to blow and a bike to race why not go have some fun?

I remember reading a post where you've only been riding for 10 months. Why do you consider yourself "ready," after all you race don't you? I can't imagine someone learning remotely enough information in 10 months to be considered proficient.

Not putting you down, just a question? :dunno

 

I remember reading a post where you've only been riding for 10 months. Why do you consider yourself "ready," after all you race don't you? I can't imagine someone learning remotely enough information in 10 months to be considered proficient.

Not putting you down, just a question? :dunno

Not at all...

I agree with pretty much everything you have said, I to learned by "just going to the track and racing"

Would I recommend it to the next person? It depends...I have a very shot and steep learning curve. I see and learn from other people alot faster than most...I listen to everyone's comments, reviews and opinions and then study for myself on the track...

I have been riding since April of last year, and have only been on the track since April of this year...

I still have much to learn, but like most have learned backwards...

I attended a class with Super Dave Rosno at MAM 2 weeks ago, and all he taught us was "to blame the bike"

We all know how to ride, but being able to take it to the next level, we need to b1tch and complain about what our bike is doing and telling us. Simple, small things we just "learn to live with" are small problems that add up to big problems, which make us go slower...

Why do we let off going into a corner when other go faster? Balls? Sure...Why? Becuase they feal more comfortable than us going into that said corner...Why? Becuase they understand how to communicate and understand and feal what our bike is telling us...

That is all I am saying...

Everyone "subsribes" to a school of though. Alot of people subsribe to Keith Code's...He is published, has a school, a fancy internet site etc...

So we place our trust in him...Not to say Code is wrong, but rather than just subsribe to Code fully, I take some from him, Pridmore, etc. etc...

Going back to Super Dave's class...by spending 8 hours with him, communicating and learning how to express what my bike is telling me on braking, accleration, turns, etc. I was able to tune a 6 second drop off my laptime w/o following him around the track once...

Why do Rossi, Maladin, Hayden go out for 4-6 pratice laps? They are communicating with the bike, and in turn communicate with their team, which "tune" out any problems the chasis is telling them they are having....

Just trying to help the dude out, and say,

"Give yourself some credit, you know how to ride, now go out there and listen to the bike, and learn how to tune...Don't blame yourself, blame the bike"

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Sorry for all the spelling errors...

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its cool man, as long as he gets some advice :thumbup

 

its cool man, as long as he gets some advice :thumbup

Do you race CCS?

I am going to be at Gingerman at the end of the month...Never been their before...

 

Do you race CCS?

I am going to be at Gingerman at the end of the month...Never been their before...

not this season. My endurance buddy lost his job...:cryin

 

not this season. My endurance buddy lost his job...:cryin

Yeah, I hear you....

Ever been to Gingerman?

How about Blackhawk?

I was at Blackhawk last month...Nice, fun track. Pretty technical...

 

I did Keith Cxode levels 1 and 2. Recommend them both, but take a few track days after level 1 to apply what you learned before moving to level 2. Same for any other levels.
I made the mistake of going straight from one to the other, and found myself working on the old stuff rather than the new stuff they were trying to teach me.