u got a PM

 

I use it within vmware on Linux. Funny how they are trying to bite off of MAC OS X.

But hey, for Microsoft, its not bad....

 

Funny I thought I switched to Vista when I finally got a mac this year.

Never did like windows. I got tired of all the problems with it and finally switched. I can say that I'll never be going back.

I don't miss OS/2 anymore.

BTW I keep hearing on these tech shows that M$ will only allow you 2 installs when the final is released. I wonder if you can clone a HD after the install, and be able to use it after a crash.

 

usenet?

 

The first rule of usenet is you do not talk about usenet.

 

I thought that the new windows was going to have all kinda anti pirate stuff that would esentially criple the system... like only let you surf the internet for 30 mins or so and other kinda annoying stuff

 

Have it installed on a test machine at work to verify our software works. Not a hitch. Microsoft was pretty kind to us software developers with this release.

Very nice.

Visuals are great. Security is very good. Absolutely zero complaints. It will be on my home machine they day it ships.

 

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2. No serial numbers, cracks, or asking for software you know you are supposed to be paying for.

 

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2. No serial numbers, cracks, or asking for software you know you are supposed to be paying for.

there aren't enough medications or psychiatrists in the world to help yo bro!! :fact :lol

 

I have it on my spare laptop right now. I like it alot although my soundmax drivers are not working so now sound. HP only has the XP drivers which wont install.

Other then that its pretty freaking sweet.

 

Can I upgrade Windows XP without loosing any desktop settings, installed programs etc?

 

yeah if i upgrade will all my games and programs work fine on the new operating system. i just bought a new comp like a month ago from dell

 

thats gay. so after a clean install can i put my games and itunes and such back on?

 

yup.. you got it spanky

 

so when does it officially sell?

 

January I heard, and iTunes works great!! Just installed it. Gonna try office 2007 next.

 

I signed up for the Beta testing Program and am currently running Vista Release Candidate 1. Previously I was using the Beta 2.

Both had the option to upgrade my existing XP installation but because of driver/program compatibility issues I elected to install it as a second OS.

I like it but I wouldn't get rid of XP yet and the "Beta" versions have a time limit of 12 months.

 

No interest to me.

I've been using linux for the past 8-9 years as a 2nd OS and Server OS. I'm too the point where I don't need windows for anything. Just iTunes. And when I get the new Macbook Pro - it won't be an issue any longer

 

Don't go install this on a computer you rely upon. Windows Update isn't going to work for you once the beta period is over. If you have a pirate version, probably same thing.

 

Mac OS X (10.5) Leopard will kick Vista in the taco... :crash

 

How? Certainly you don't mean speed. XP stomps OSX in speed. :fact

 

Speaking of Microsoft, did anyone else see the latest problems with the Zune? Apparently some retailers are selling them early, and the Zunes are crashing like a biotch.

 

That Zune is going to go down like the Hindenburg. I honestly don't know what Microsoft is thinking these days. Trying to copy Google with Office Live, and selling Xboxes at a loss...when is that gonna pan out again?

 

That Zune is going to go down like the Hindenburg. I honestly don't know what Microsoft is thinking these days. Trying to copy Google with Office Live, and selling Xboxes at a loss...when is that gonna pan out again?

All video game consoles from any company are sold at a loss - even $600 PS3s. Buy a couple of games MS is back in the black. Not to mention it puts MS EXACTLY where it wants to be - at the center of your home.

Why doesn't anybody ask "What's up with Google? Trying to copy Office??"

As for the Zune - iPod needs some competition. Don't get me wrong I love my iPod but there is a lot of room for improvement and Zune will at least move it in the right direction. Downward price pressure & wifi alone make the Zune attractive to me. I really hope it has a better battery then the damn iPod - those things are rediculous.

MS will never do anything right according to some people. Part of the same punish success mentality that seems to be spreading like a cancer nowadays.

 

Oh man I love spotlight!!! Hardly touched the search feature in windows because it took so long. Spotlight finds files quicker than it would take me to open the windows to get to them.

Now having recently switched to mac, I have to say, my slower clock speed mac runs circles around the windows machine that died on me. It took me a while to switch. All I've got to say is I won't be switching back. You guys can have your spyware & viruses. Why buy a fast machine if you've got to keep bogging it down with a bunch of programs to keep it running?

 

:hellobye Enjoy! I had a Mac. They have problems just like pcs. Unless of course I am the only one that had any problems. Matter of fact, when I complained they said I needed to buy this new version (wouldn't call it a patch) to make those problems go away. I was like "I thought I wouldn't have any problems?".... Whatever. To each his own.

 

I think if you're going to compare OSs to OSs, you ought to benchmark them doing things OSs do, not the programs on top of them. The comparison you cite speaks a lot more to the development techniques used in those programs and says very little about the OS.

I don't know what Mac you had or what OS version, but OS X since X.3 has really been nice, even moreso since 10.4.

I'm sorry you had a bad experience with Mac, but no computer company can promise everyone that they will have no problems since there is no accounting for stupidity. But I can tell you that in my professional experience, PCs are decidedly more error prone.

 

I think if you're going to compare OSs to OSs, you ought to benchmark them doing things OSs do, not the programs on top of them. The comparison you cite speaks a lot more to the development techniques used in those programs and says very little about the OS.

I don't know what Mac you had or what OS version, but OS X since X.3 has really been nice, even moreso since 10.4.

I'm sorry you had a bad experience with Mac, but no computer company can promise everyone that they will have no problems since there is no accounting for stupidity. But I can tell you that in my professional experience, PCs are decidedly more error prone.

It was an early version of OSX. Now you have to admit that everywhere you go MAC users have never told me they have ANY problems until I tell them I had them. Less problems would be realistic. They don't say that. It's like me saying I haven't had any problems with XP (well after service pack 2 of course).

 

Quad Core.......FTW!!!

 

Soon to be OctCore. Intel's Clovertown processors are launching tomorrow (four cores per processor). Apple was experimenting months ago with two of those in the Mac Pro. The beautiful thing about these new chips too is that you'll be able to just pop them into existing Mac Pros.

 

People...Don't waste your time installing this, if you have you a system that is barely running XP. The 32bit version is a HOG. The 64bit version will own your PC, if you can install it.

 

Agreed. The minumum specs from MS are a joke. 800mhz and 512mb ram. If you don't have a processor 3 times that and double the ram save your money. Just running the OS is using 512mb of my 2 gig of ram.

 

i'm not gonna start running vista until i absolutely have to.

 

What exactly is the point to all that flashy junk?

If I minimize a window I just want it out of the way, why the hell would you want it to slither and spin and jackoff before it reaches the taskbar?

 

You make a good point. Most of it is flashy, but some of it is actually helpful. Same goes for Aero and whatever it's called on OSX. Flashy but functional. Would you rather the "look and feel" go backwards in development?

It can all be turned on and off, what you see is just showing what the software is capable of. Mind you, the "Framework" (for lack of better words) of this was developed by Novel, then released to a bunch of developers who work for free. If you put this side by side with Vista's eyecandy, and OSX's eyecandy, free open source software FTW. Let's not kid ourselves, Vista is mostly just eyecandy too. Look at the real features that were removed from Vista, such as WinFS, NGSCB, Microsoft Shell, etc.

Most of AIGLX/Beryl is flashy and eyecandy, but some of the features are very helpful when multi tasking. The rollup helps, transparency helps when coding, the alt+tab is awesome, the way it organizes windows, multiple workspaces (the cube), etc. Also it runs on my laptop with onboard Intel graphics card and shared 512mb of memory, let's see you say that about Aero. XGL+compiz was a memory hog, AIGLX+beryl, not so much.

Basically the point of my original post was to be an advocate. You're not stuck with Microsoft or OSX, there are other alternatives. These alternatives have pro's and con's. The cons are being worked out every day. The developers can compete with multi-BILLION dollar companies. Linux for the desktop is almost ready for the masses. Be aware of your options. And...it's free.

 

OSX FTW!!! i gave up on windows when i was doing my hw and all of a sudden i got desktop jacked. never again will i use windows.