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Been having the same problem with my new 2020 r1 I have mid pipe and track akro, block off plates and servo buddy. The bike keeps getting stuck in track or street mode and you can’t switch engine modes. The dealer has already cleared the codes once.
1. Is the bike still safe to ride without the ECU flashed?
2. Is there a better race ecu available to buy?
Just getting tired of having to take it to the dealer to clear the codes when I know it’ll probably happen again.
 
Congrats on your new bike. To answer your questions:
1. Buy a wideband and AFR gauge and see if you lean out at cruising and WOT. Leaning out can run you into higher engine heat along with potential knocking/pinging/detonation. Without verifying that your AFRs aren't out of specs while riding (or attaching a det can and listening for uncontrolled ignition events, hopefully on a dyno), no one can tell you yes or no. If you ride it around, you're most likely going to see more wear and tear than a bike with a proper tune. Maybe it'll take you months, maybe years before reliability issues catch you though. shrug
2. Depends on what you mean by better. AEM Infinity 508 is available for motorcycles. Motec M130 is also available. I don't see why you would need the extra adjustment resolution. Both solutions cost over a grand and require someone who is familiar with the software or tuning in general. If I were you, I'd just wait for FTECU to push out their R1 flash.
 
Let me correct sizxtwosix... yes the bike is 100% safe to ride without an ECU flash. This is Yamaha's flagship motorcycle. They wouldn't put out an inferior product to the public.

The flash is highly suggested though and it does much more for your bike then just adjusting fuel maps.
 
What is the code that is popping up when it locks you out? Get rid of the servo buddy and plug back in the exup motor but remove the cables. Same for the ais motor. Leave the electronics connected with no hoses or cables attached and I believe that will solve your issues. Don't ever key on your bike with any wires unplugged it will do that every time. You can buy a cheap obd2 scanner and an adapter harness and clear them yourself. I think the harness is 20-40 bucks and then whatever scanner you want.
 
Personally I would not do all 'em mods without a proper reflash/ tune, at the very least a fuel management device ala Power Commander. Above response in regards to how to clear the 'errors' you keep getting is correct. But for me it's not a question of blaming Yamaha in thinking they released a bad product. No, a race ecu is not a cure-all.

Assuming (blindly) your bike is responding just fine because its a Japanese product only proves you're not fully aware how modern engines behave after such mods.

Fact is you're attempting to run on oem fueling which was designed to run 'safely' while AIS, servo motor, catalytic converter are in place.

If you get rid of all of them and don't know where your AFR sits all the advice in the world won't help you one bit. You need to know where your own bike is and what its doing. This is not a guessing game, there are tools available to start answering questions nobody on here can answer. TBH w/out data most posts/comments are merely an educated guess.

Now, if you go and get data n' post 'factual' results, then it's likely several members on here will have the 'whats next' answers you seek.
 
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do your self a favor and get a code reader/clearer, they are relatively cheap and you will be able to see what code it is throwing and clear it yourself without going to a dealer

Yamaha diagnostic sucks and wont clear itself even if the condition is no longer present.

Once the bin file is available in the different softwares there will be flashes available for it , then get it flashed , the code reader will always be helpful. Riding it until it is flashed is fine you wont hurt anything
 
Also, fancy aftermarket ECU packages are pointless for these mods. What you have 'modified' is extremely common and run of the mill work I would suspect most bikers do to their bikes in the 1st couple of months. The errors you are getting are because you removed devices and thus the sensors are throwing up an error. I mean the computer knows you have physically removed the devices. This is what the reflash is for, to avoid the computer throwing a code. Running aftermarket ECU would only be required if you're doing major mods to your engine and want to have full control of other parameters like timing, etc. or if you were to add a turbo.
The other reason for a reflash is to replace the above mentioned oem fueling parameters in order to take advantage of the mods which have been implemented.

Even then most bikes don't behave 100% like you want with a 'random' fuel map built on some other random bike (of which there are not many since its a 2020) and you
would be advised to get a custom tune, weather on a dyno or with a live tuning device like an Auto-Tune from Dynojet Research. Search button is your friend.

Aftermarket ECUs are complete overkill for a road bike. Yamaha has built a great product with traction control, ABS, ride modes, etc and the oem ECU makes use of them all. If you go aftermarket you've got an uphill battle to make it all work together. The only aftermarket ecu I would consider (and purely for a track bike) is the GYTR Race ECU, but it disables all the stuff you would generally use on the street like headlights, brake lights and turn signals.

Something like MOTEC will kill your pocket book, and you won't use its features. :D

Click the link below:

Motec M130 ECU - M130

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Product Code: M130
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$2,295.00

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