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nothing is showing up for my vin here,

https://vinrcl.safercar.gov/vin/vinLookup

tomn8tor does yours show anything on the link above? (trying to see if this is just for a certain units only)


here's another one to search via model/year for complaints etc. the only one on here is the R1m shock
Keeping You Safe | Safercar | National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA)

only the shock is reported on the nhtsa model search and vin search reports 0 open recalls for my vin
 
Yea that letter looks kinda fake especially that they tell you to go to a specific dealer?? Maybe I'm just in the denial phase. Although you did say you worked for that dealer?? Maybe there is a joker there getting u going??
yeah I'm calling fake. wrong format and all plus it's cropped so much we can't see the letterhead or the bottom of the page.
who crops a photo that much anyway.

denial...:smilies26:
 
I just looked at the service manual to see what's in store for this job. Just the splitting of the crank cases and putting them back together looks like a whole days job with sealant and 40 bolts x 3 diff torqueing specs along with a special pattern. My god I'll never trust anyone to do this job.
 
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your picture doesn't really look "Official".

this is an official letter from yamaha to owners about the R1M shock,

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs/jaxrs/download/doc/UCM479320/RCONL-15V221-2622.pdf

I hope someone is playing prank on ya because it looks fake as hell
Not a prank. Sales manager gave me a heads up that I would get a letter about the recall. Two days later I have it in hand.
And my letter came from the exclusive Yamaha distributor who sells the bike to the local dealer. Hence why it looks odd to you.

Better pic:
 
In line with the post from yamaharandy, I am a bit suspicious about that letter. Would a proper recall notification not tell you the affected VIN's...? Even if every single unit is affected, it would still tell you the affected VIN's...? And unless it is just not visible in the photo, there would be a campaing number. And finally, broken gears are dangerous as they can make the bike come to an immediate stop. If there would be a recall because of broken gears, would this not tell you to immediately stop using the bike...?
 
In line with the post from yamaharandy, I am a bit suspicious about that letter. Would a proper recall notification not tell you the affected VIN's...? Even if every single unit is affected, it would still tell you the affected VIN's...? And unless it is just not visible in the photo, there would be a campaing number. And finally, broken gears are dangerous as they can make the bike come to an immediate stop. If there would be a recall because of broken gears, would this not tell you to immediately stop using the bike...?
An Annoucement will come next week...
 
Still, something is not right here. Why the hell would some dealer in Hawaii inform their customers BEFORE there is an official and proper notification coming from the Yamaha headquarters...?

The result can be seen here - somebody will post a picture of the non-Yamaha letter and within couple of hours that picture will be on several internet forums all around the world, very likely with the outcome that hundreds or thousands of worried customers will overload the Yamaha headquarters with phone calls first thing monday morning.

Is that really what Yamaha wants...? Or, is this part of the plan...? Smoothening out the impact of the official recall announcement by gradually leaking information through a small dealer with internet forum connections...?
 
Still looks nothing like the official letter for the shock. I dont recall anyone talking about the recall for the shock before it was officially announced because they got a letter about it.

You said you worked there before. It sounds suspisious. The point ill believe it is when its on the nhtsa site. Its not an option to be there, its the law.


On the shock recall they put out a notice to stop sales to dealers. This would definitely fall in that category also. Im sure there would of been some posts about this already. This is far more dangerous
 
Freak'n great. I trust NO ONE to work on my bikes. I see hacker techs everyday and there seems to be more and more of them at dealerships. Well if the dealer has to repair it and it breaks and breaks it's Lemon Law time or Yamaha has to do a collateral substitution or repurchase the bike. Honestly if there is a gearbox problem with the potential of the motor locking up they should do a "stop sale" on new units not to risk liability.
 
Freak'n great. I trust NO ONE to work on my bikes. I see hacker techs everyday and there seems to be more and more of them at dealerships. Well if the dealer has to repair it and it breaks and breaks it's Lemon Law time or Yamaha has to do a collateral substitution or repurchase the bike. Honestly if there is a gearbox problem with the potential of the motor locking up they should do a "stop sale" on new units not to risk liability.
Its gotta be fake. Never have i heard of customers being notified before its announced publicly. Its usually a issue customers are complaining about first. Then there is a recall then people get a letter. Have you heard about any r1s blowing up the transmissions?
The wording on that letter seems like it came from a D- law student also.
I mean it doesnt even say to stop using the bike.
 
Its gotta be fake. Never have i heard of customers being notified before its announced publicly. Its usually a issue customers are complaining about first. Then there is a recall then people get a letter. Have you heard about any r1s blowing up the transmissions?
The wording on that letter seems like it came from a D- law student also.
I mean it doesnt even say to stop using the bike.
I have heard of zero transmission problems with this bike but that doesn't mean anything. If warranty claims increase for a specific problem then a recall or campaign will be issued especially if there is the potential for serious injury or fatality. In this case I would think an investigation into one failed gear along production examples being too brittle would be enough to issue a recall. I would think this would warrant a stop sale for sure.

I'm of the belief this is real; I'm not happy about it and I'm going to have to source a good tech somewhere. I'm the most particular pain in the ass you would ever want to meet. This repair is a major job and rife potential of future problems from incompetent tech hacks.
 
Prophylactic or not, legitimate or not, time will tell. Whose gonna call Yamaha Corporate Monday Morning?
 
On the shock recall they put out a notice to stop sales to dealers. This would definitely fall in that category also. Im sure there would of been some posts about this already. This is far more dangerous
Honestly if there is a gearbox problem with the potential of the motor locking up they should do a "stop sale" on new units not to risk liability.
I mean it doesnt even say to stop using the bike.
Exactly my point. A gear deforming / cracking / dropping a tooth could end in disaster by completely locking up the rear wheel at low as well as high speed.

If the shock absorber recall - where the rear suspension could not even collapse and oil leakage could not physically occur due to the triangular linkage stopping towards the frame - ended up in stopped sales and customers being told not to use the bike, then what about a potentially locked up gearbox...?

If Yamaha knows there is a problem that could potentially cause a locked up gearbox, something is seriously wrong if they have a national distributor send out a message that does not tell the customer to immediately stop using the bike.
 
I'm of the belief this is real; I'm not happy about it and I'm going to have to source a good tech somewhere. I'm the most particular pain in the ass you would ever want to meet. This repair is a major job and rife potential of future problems from incompetent tech hacks.
6 to 8 hours of tech time plus parts on thousands of bikes with a major repair that would effect liability on the flagship product. This would effect the bottom line of the firm for this earnings cycle. Right now the OTC equity market for Yamaha is empty (it is the weekend) but it looks like there is a Europe equity market that should open up in 16 hours that handles Yamaha. Yamaha needs to get ahead of this rumor.
 
Im in for further info. If this is legit, I don't know where on the east coast to take my bike for repair, because I would not let these dealers do an oil change! I am 7,900 miles of hard riding with
no issues.
 
6 to 8 hours of tech time plus parts on thousands of bikes with a major repair that would effect liability on the flagship product. This would effect the bottom line of the firm for this earnings cycle. Right now the OTC equity market for Yamaha is empty (it is the weekend) but it looks like there is a Europe equity market that should open up in 16 hours that handles Yamaha. Yamaha needs to get ahead of this rumor.
A flat rate job under warranty rates; not the best possible scenario for a customer. If this was a cassette tranny it would not be a big deal but since this would require splitting the cases......it's a big deal and probably much more than 6 to 8 hours. We do cams on car top ends and that's an 8 hour job. Pulling the motor; tearing down the head, cylinders, removing the pistons, rods, clutch, generator etc is going to be much longer than 8 hours. This is a week long job, more like 30 hours if not more.
 
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