R1 has come stock with a damper since 2004

 

You're asking whether someone would buy an R1 over a CBR1000RR on an R1 forum....

R1 wins, every day.

 

Get whichever is cheapest, in best condition, or you think looks the best. Mere mortals like us aren't even going to come close to noticing the performance difference of these machines.

That being said, I prefer the R1 over the CBRs, but you're on an R1 forum. Go on a Honda site and they'll tell you they're the best...

 

Go on a Honda site and they'll tell you they're the best...

Yeah, but deep down they know...

 

Go for the R1!

 

17 looks better but 18 quickshifts up and down.
The SP Honda is a good looking bike too nice color combo. It’s a toss up.

Does the R1 have severe vibration or is it mostly smooth?

 

Homie you ain't gonna be noticing nothing but the world going by in a blur, coming from a 650 twin.

 

It really depends on what you're going to use it for. I haven't even sat on the current generation R1, but I know it's taller and more aggressive ergos-wise. If you're riding on the street, the Honda is probably more useful in terms of ergonomic comfort and power delivery (it still makes excellent mid-range power last I saw). I don't think the electronics package would work quite as nicely as the R1's, but that would only matter in a track environment - for street use, I'm sure it does a good job. Both bikes are excellent, but I'd say at least sit on them if you haven't already.

 

R1 kicks arse and rides tight little circles around the CBR1K..

I've ridden a couple of Hondas and they are fvcking boring. Seriously, cookie cutter sewing machines :shake

 

My 2010 VFR1200 was definitely in that category, so boring I sold it instead of the R1 I bought it to replace.

 

going look this panty dropper over on Thu...thanks for the info.

 

I put 13k miles on a 2008 CRR1000RR. I liked it quite a bit. Never had one problem with it.
But I really don't miss it.

 

I'm glad I sold my oil-burning dog of a CBR1K.

 

that's the biggest reason I did not buy one.. it was a nice enough bike but no R1

then every stupid 2008 started burnin' oil.. FACK THAT and its FAt cousin the cat!! lol

I picked up a pearl white 09 R1, some idiot killed it so I replaced it with a YELLOW 09 R1 :joke:

lol

 

Mine never lost a drop.

 

Oh don't get me wrong, the Honda was great. Nimble, good midrange, even not all that bad to work on once you figure out all the origami tabs that held on the bodywork. :banghead: But the engine lost compression in three cylinders around 34k miles; it was consuming oil up to that point.

And of course this happened just after the warranty expired. Go figure.

 

I threw a leg over an R1 today.

The R1 is a much hotter looking bike in person than pics!! I have read that the R1 has a more "dedicated" riding position, but it felt like the
CBR bars actually required a little more reach than the R1. Bar height felt the same.

At this point, the R1 looks more like what I'm after. Salesman claimed $20k out the door.

 

Depends what year cbr? I like the way the 17’s look. Other then that, R1 all the way.

 

17 SP is a good looking bike. I just want something that rips on top end

 

I don't know about a Honda but I have always wanted an aprillia or the BMW, but yamaha won that battle

 

Yup if anything ever happens to my R1 it'll likely get replaced by an RSV4.

 

I considered it too .. and I am getting a SP2

that was my decision

 

I can't even say the Honda would be in my top 5 for superbikes on sale today.... It'd probably be ranked RSV4, R1, S1000RR, GSXR and ZX10R for me.

 

I’m not even sure who in my area would work on an aprilia or bmw.

 

In my case, the answer to that is "me", outside of warranty work.

 

There is a lot to be said for fit. The new CBR (unlike previous CBR's) didn't feel right to me. It felt like the bars were to close together. At 6'2 I felt like the R1 was a better fit. As far as performance, while I am sure there is a big Honda community out there for CBR's.. if you say R1 or even R6 people will tell you stories and you will see a good representation at the track vs the Hondas.

I saw where you said 20K out the door? is that an R1M? because you can find 16/17 R1 for 14-15K, pretty easily, new on dealer floors. The 18 has revised programming.. pretty sure that is about it. My zero mile 16 was 13.9K in december (15K out the door) and that deal is getting beat last I checked by some west coast dealers.

GL with your search!

 

There is a lot to be said for fit. The new CBR (unlike previous CBR's)

I saw where you said 20K out the door? is that an R1M? because you can find 16/17 R1 for 14-15K, pretty easily, new on dealer floors. The 18 has revised programming.. pretty sure that is about it. My zero mile 16 was 13.9K in december (15K out the door) and that deal is getting beat last I checked by some west coast dealers.

GL with your search!

R1 standard not R1M. Yeah the CBR I checked out had an odd feel and I couldn’t place what bothered me till I checked out the R1.

I HATE the new R1 look. Would buy an 09.

I know. In pictures I didn’t think much then in person it got smaller and looked real good though and shocked I liked the fit.

Street is for "show", track for "go". No real rider is every going to give you any crap about whatever bike you have.

Yamaha literally falls into the turns. If you can get one of the R1's with Cross-Plane... you are in for a real treat; it turns like a V and sprints like an inline. Once you ride a new R1, you will know what I mean by that. The new R1's run extremely hot, so don't be surprised about that as well. I am typically hitting 235F if I am not moving enough in summer months (change the coolant to Engine Ice or Water Wetter). This has been the case ever since the 2007 models and has only gotten worse with every generation.


Good luck, no bad choices here.

I cruise with a Harley guy on Road King. STILL the Harley guys won’t wave ...hilarious. But yeah I respect all bikers myself and what people want. I think I can deal with the heat for what I’ll be doing w/bike. One thing about Honda didn’t care for the aggressive wheelie control reports. I’d rather pull a wheelie over an object at last sec on st than even hit a small object.

 

Both are good bikes. Years matter, made some ugly ones through out the years.
The cbr is a little more compact riding, meaning if your well over 6' might be "to cramped"
I HATE the new R1 look. Would buy an 09.

 

Street is for "show", track for "go". No real rider is every going to give you any crap about whatever bike you have. I would go with the bike that is going to be the most reliability and the best handling options. No one ever needed ABS or Traction Control until they needed it. Any running bike is always better than one laying in pieces.


I have had or ridden sport bikes by Honda, BMW, Aprilia, Kawasaki, Ducati, and Suzuki. My preference is Yamaha all the way! The R1M destroyed my HP4 in every way. The Ducati and Aprilia were horrible street bikes; uncomfortable and unreliable. The features on the Yamaha's typically edged out the Kawi and Suzuki. The Honda took a lot of physical strength to ride hard, the Yamaha literally falls into the turns. If you can get one of the R1's with Cross-Plane... you are in for a real treat; it turns like a V and sprints like an inline. Once you ride a new R1, you will know what I mean by that. The new R1's run extremely hot, so don't be surprised about that as well. I am typically hitting 235F if I am not moving enough in summer months (change the coolant to Engine Ice or Water Wetter). This has been the case ever since the 2007 models and has only gotten worse with every generation.


Good luck, no bad choices here.

 

The new R1's run extremely hot, so don't be surprised about that as well. I am typically hitting 235F if I am not moving enough in summer months (change the coolant to Engine Ice or Water Wetter).

Truth about the heat that the newer models put out, especially the crossplanes. But a flash will enable you to activate the fans at a lower temperature (I have my 2016's activate @ 190F).

As for the Honda taking "physical strength?" If anything, I found my '08 CBR almost as easy-handling as my R1...it actually made my a better rider by allowing me to relax a bit and concentrate on other aspects of my riding. It was a very confidence-inspiring bike. :thumbup Ducati Panigales are notorious for having to be ridden in anger to get the most out of them. :lol

 

Sit on the bikes and choose whatever is more comfortable. On the street you are not going to see any difference in performance. Personally I think the cbr is a better street bike more comfortable and smoother. The r1 has a more track focused ergo and the snatchy throttle is a pita. If you plan on going to the track the r1 is much better though.

 

That’s a a first.

R1 is smoother than the CBR when fuel tuned and throttle mapped properly.

 

Smoother I’ll have to figure that one out by test ride

 

Most dealers won't let you test ride a new R1 (at least around here). You will need to locate a Demo Day. Some bikes you can instantly hate by sitting on them.. some bikes you need to ride to hate LOL. The bikes setup out of the box "should' be in the middle, so it can be stiffened or softened. Might be some dealers out there that would help set the bike and allow a test ride.. but that level of customer service is uncommon. Even with used bikes the owners will generally require cash in hand before letting you off.

I would keep the 650R for an around town bike and get the R for track use. Because most of us mortals will never see that last percentage that makes one bike better than the other, you really can't go wrong. You should also get the r1 because of this great forum

 

Show up with money in hand (pre-approved financing, if necessary) and they'll let you test ride anything on the lot.

 

Apologies for the brain fart. Mixed up the Ninja 650 and CBR 650.

 

Apologies for the brain fart. Mixed up the Ninja 650 and CBR 650.[/QUOTE

And I agree most don’t use the full power/capabilities of bike but I like having that power on tap!!