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First time R1 rider... I'm the problem

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#1 · (Edited)
Hello all,
I am a proud owner of a yamaha 2013 yamaha r1 and have been so for the past 4 months. The day I got the bike I had zero motorcycle experience, the closest experience I had was riding my bicycle and pedaling back and forth from university. I am very motor illiterate with 5 days experience with a Shelby 2010 gt-500, which was the extent of my manual transmission knowledge. I coupled that with the some info from YouTube and articles i read online and drove home from the dealership with my new bike absolutely shitting myself on the road (lol, right?). with no bike license or prior experience I made it home safely (in this country cops rarely pull over bikers or even attempt to because of the congestion and inability to pursue a bike that can easily out maneuver in those situations.) and they mostly don't give a shit. anyways just a little background as to understand where im coming from.. My clutch seems a bit off; as far as i could remember (possibly 2nd day of having the bike) when really putting the power down and maxing rpm and trying to shift to 2nd it gets stuck in Neutral... to be clear it only happens when my foot doesnt push hard enough and it lands in neutral... in this situation I naturally recognize im in N and try the clutch again and try to shift up to 2 (this mistake happens way less compared to when i first got the bike) but ------> 8/10 <------ times say I am stuck in N and cannot shift up or down (1 or 2)... until I get CLOSE to a complete stop. I can sometimes forcefully push it into gear but i get this clicking sound that sounds horrible and i feel im damaging the bike. Imagine taking a piece of metal and putting it close enough to an air fan... 'tk tk tk tk tk tk tk tk tk'.... I went to the dealership with questions about this and all i get is "its fine dont worry about it all bikes do that"... but I find that hard to believe, when i compare this to the car I drove I can go to N at any point in time I want and shift back into the appropriated gear for the speed im going... and do that as many times as i like with no clicking or clanking noises... for the other 2/8 times it will shift with no problem or weird sounds what so ever.. like i said im noob... but the scenario above doesn't sound right. I could be wrong but ill never know with the people I'm dealing with at the dealership... the only regret I have for buying an r1.. is that I did in this country and the dealership is crap... ducati and bmw are the best here in terms of sports bike dealerships. but I already made the buy so I better get to better understand my bike sooner than later. otherwise I would have no complaints about my R1 and to say the least I love this bike... looks amazing (i prefer the way it looks to any other bike within 3k$ price ranges of my bike) and its a beast... some constructive feed back would be greatly appreciated. and before I get butt raped for driving without a license on public roads with no prior experience: I am a piece of worthless garbage that should die while choking on a goat's dong and my family should burn in napalm right after witnessing me get gang banged by inmates at your choice of one of the worlds most disturbing prisons --- but seriously dumb and dangerous move.. I KNOW. with all that said thanks in advance for the help and your inputs. :)
 
#4 ·
Practice on getting a full shift its all about timing and feel it happens to everyone that starts off in the beginning of learn to ride and never compare bikes to manual cars there way different And the clicking sound happens when u don't pull the clutch and upshift

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#8 ·
No shit...you have a few days of experience and you are already maxing rpms? Or do you think when the light comes on you need to shift? Tat is set at about 7k from the factory.

As to your shifting issue, that would be the bike. The newest R1 (2013) has had many reports of this happening, but Yamaha just blames the rider...it sucks and I hate to see someone get screwed so I will selfishly give you 3k for your pile of metal :fact
 
#10 ·
I can't stand when people get all pissy over text.. Obviously he doesn't know the correct grammar rules, he's from a different country. It's called language barrier... Grow up :2bitchsla

Mhahe - you need some seat time on the bike before you understand it's characteristics. If your country offers motorcycle safety courses you really need to take them.

Ride safe man, you are on a very powerful machine, and can be very dangerous of you don't respect it's abilities
 
#12 ·
Just bring it back to the dealership and get a DUC :lol
 
#14 ·
1. Quit shifting like a girl. Pull the clutch in, shift the lever like you've got a pair and release the clutch while rolling on the throttle. It all has to be one fluid, firm process.
2. Once you blow a shift, you've killed the ability to rev match. That's why it gets harder to get it into gear until you slow down.
3. Get on a smaller bike to learn shifting, throttle, clutch, etc.... before you become a statistic.
 
#16 · (Edited)
Go take an MFS course....... enough said!!!!! if you drove a Shelby GT 500, and have a NEW 2013 R1 you can afford to take the Motorcycle Safety Course ($50.00), I’m sure the Dealer or your local DMV has all the Information . Do yourself a favor, don’t short change yourself take the safety course ASAP. un-experience riders can hurt themselves VERY EASLEY
 
#17 ·
before I get butt raped for driving without a license on public roads with no prior experience: I am a piece of worthless garbage that should die while choking on a goat's dong and my family should burn in napalm right after witnessing me get gang banged by inmates at your choice of one of the worlds most disturbing prisons --- but seriously dumb and dangerous move..
That is pretty funny. Agree with KMac and others. Transmission and clutch are very different from cars. Take a class if there's one available.

What kind of dealership sells an R1 to someone with no motorcycle experience whatsoever?
:2bitchsla
 
#18 · (Edited)
That is pretty funny. Agree with KMac and others. Transmission and clutch are very different from cars. Take a class if there's one available.

What kind of dealership sells an R1 to someone with no motorcycle experience whatsoever?:2bitchsla
The type of stealership who wants to make money and doesnt care about what happens.
 
#19 ·
Just some technical info so you understand why you can go to neutral in a car and not a bike while rolling. A cars gear box has synchronizers. What these do is automatically adjust the speed of the gear you are trying to go into to match the speed of the input shaft.

A motorcycle gear box is completely different. There are no synchronizers. Basically one gear has 5 or so studs sticking out and the other has holes that these go into. When you go to neutral, things start slowing down in the trans and make it difficult to lock those studs into the next gear without making a bunch of clacking.

The clacking is the sound of the studs trying to speed up the next gear but its just metal on metal. It will go if you force it quickly but it is unnecessary and irreversible damage you are doing to your gear box every time you do it.

Best way to avoid it? Just remember to shift harder into second. Everybody messes up a shift everyone in a while, just remember, you probably aren't going to break it by shifting to hard, but you will by shifting to light and missing shifts.

And if its a new bike, take it easy. Engine a clutch probably aren't even broke in yet. Best way to kill a clutch is not to break it in properly.
 
#33 ·
I damn near dropped my coffee with this thread...
i drink Tea, same difference :confused:


the ticking is perfectly normal, its the valves on Yamaha sportbikes, they all make that sound... learn to love it..

learn to ride.
 
#21 ·
Do yourself and your loved ones a favor and take a few MSF riding courses. And gear up every time you ride. Stay safe out there brother.
 
#24 ·
If no rider training is available to you, I suggest paying someone from a bike shop to teach you on thier time off. You need to learn the proper way to shift, before you kill yourself or the bikes trans. If you continue to try on your own without help, neither you or the bike will last too long. Repairing the trans costs thousands, and warranty won't cover it since it will be your fault. Get some help ASAP.
 
#26 ·
AS others said, you need gear (helmet, armored gloves, armored jacket, armored pants of some sort), and some instruction.

It is possible that the clutch issue could also be from your motor breaking in (in addition to your lack of skill). The clutch shares the same oil as your engine. When an engine is new, metal parts are shearing, to little shavings in the oil, which is normal. Your first oil change is scheduled at 600 miles. I'd drain/refill the oil at 100 miles (don't worry about the oil filter until 600) to see if it helps.

And for God sakes, be careful. Literbikes are not forgiving to newbie riders, even the underpowered crossplane. And I'd never be going to redline in any gear, on a new motor, right off the bat.
 
#27 ·
Wow this is like sticking some random joe shmoe in a fighter jet and handing him the keys smh. Please take that bike back and get at most an r6. But before you do any of that, go and take a motorcycle course that will teach you the basics of riding.
 
#43 ·
I think the original post is a joke. This guy is just messing with R1 forum members..
Il put a 20 on troll - who's in? XD


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There have been several new members starting Trollish threads here . & when I put my Sherlock Holmes hat on I'm goin to have to Blame Rex and his dumb @Ss Trolling the Aprilia forum w the Same USERNAME as this forum. It Only takes 1 google search from a member there to realize it. :bandit