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HOW TO: 09-13 R1 Install Gilles VCR Rearsets

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#1 · (Edited)
Got some beautiful rearsets in today and since I had my camera and tripod handy, decided to go ahead and do a how-to write up. I was a little unsure about it going into it but then again, nothing on this bike is really difficult with the right tools!

The Gilles VCR.38.GT rearsets were highly recommended and after researching a few brands and styles, I decided to go with the ULTRA-adjustable VCR's for my 2009 R1. The stock rearsets were working fine but as you can see, they lack a few things, first and foremost, adjustability, then with their sloppy linkage systems on the gear shifter mechanism it's just nasty. Style is a big one for all R1's and then grip on the pegs as the stockers are like slip and slides with just a wee bit of moisture on them.

The only draw back I see to them so far is the price at $580, but then again, I haven't ridden with them yet, I will post up more on adjusting them later. On to the install!

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Packaging was decent, I've noticed a lot of motorcycle parts aren't packaged well, and this included fairings, for some reason? Regardless, these didn't travel far so I wasn't worried about damaged goods.

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Laid out, ready for action, very nice pieces!

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Parts bag contents, very clean looking carbon fiber and even the splices are included.

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Started by removing the heel guard which also happens to be the mount bolts for the rear brake master cylinder.

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Then the rear set. My son is getting things ready for me, he's 3!

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Cotter pin removed, remove the pivot pin for the rear brake master cylinder and set it aside carefully.

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Remove the two bolts on the back side of the heat shield holding it to the rearset. (You will use these bolts for the Gilles set also)

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Cut the brake wires, leaving a couple inches to work with later if you ever need to re-install them.

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Take this time to clean up the heat shield, or even install a Y-pipe! I didn't but it makes it easy at this point.

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Install the heat shield to the Gilles rearset using the OEM hardware, leave them loose at this point.

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Test fit the heat shield and rearset assembly, you will probably need to apply some pressure to the heat shield to get it where it will sit comfortably.

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Once you have the heat shield tightened up where you want it, I removed the inner assembly of the VCR so that I could splice the wires in with a little more room. It's very easy, just remove the main bolt and it all pops right now. Keep it all in order!

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Splice it! The switch is 3 wire, I did not use the BLUE wire as the instruction manual states, and I do not think it matters what wires you use, but I just hooked it up and tested the brake light. I retained the stock heat wrapping for the wires, and it also helps if you stagger the splices so that it doesn't make too big of a diameter so that the heat wrapping won't fit over it. I then used electrical tape over the heat shielding to keep moisture out.

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Spliced and re-installing inner assembly.

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Install the carbon heel guard along with the rear brake master cylinder using the provided hardware with loctite. Tighten to spec, do not crack your carbon fiber!

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Use the provided master cylinder adapter and clamping pin (very nice! No more cotter keys!) and you're done. Adjust to your liking.

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Now for the left side! Look at that POS! Mine is also bent from a tip over where some kid laid his bike down and slid it into mine, so anyways, lets go!

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Remove the left rearset (two bolts) and then remove the shifter linkage. I take the shifter off first and then break the nut on the gearbox, then screw the whole thing off together.

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Loosen, and REMOVE the bolt for the gearbox linkage.

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Rotate it 180 degrees, re-insert bolt and tighten to spec.

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Assemble your stack up for the shifter and install with the provided shifter linkage shaft (do not tighten jam nuts at this time).

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Use the provided spacer for the lower mount bolt on the left rearset. I also used BLUE loctite for the mounting hardware and the shifter pivot bolt.

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Install left rearset and set to your liking (I set mine to their MID position, but on the UPPER mount holes in the frame)

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Adjust the shifter to the proper height for your and tighten jam nuts!

Last but not least, LOOK over your installation, ensure your brake light works and once you're sure you're all good, GO RIDE!

Love it.


****PLEASE NOTE, I did not cut the heat shield as the instructions specified, so it will hit on the right rearset if I attempt to move it full forward. I didn't anticipate moving it full forward so I was going to wait until I needed to do it.****
 
#6 · (Edited)
Corbin seat is very nice, HOWEVER, if I could do it again, I would have purchased the Yamaha Gel seat, it's cheaper and provides more grip on the cheeks. I like it though, cost a little too much IMO. I rode about 140 miles today with the sets, I like them very much, takes some getting used to the different feel as these are my first aftermarket sets but I've got them at the total neutral setting and I'll be playing with them next time out. Far as I could tell, it felt like I had more grip on the tank, but that may have just been my imagination, I think as they are in their neutral setting the are a bit higher than the stock setup in their upper mounts.

It's all good!

Eye candy...

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#7 ·
Nice!!!!!!!!!!!

That is very good presentation you did :bow and they look amazing:jump

I think i am going to buy the same (in black-gold), because during turning i can't support my outside knee on the fuel tank properly, so i think they will help with some adjustment.

How did you see them on the road? Had to go out many times to bring them at your liking? Do they have good traction with the boots?
 
#8 ·
They do have excellent traction compared to the stock pegs, honestly I set them at their neutral setting and I have not adjusted them yet! They give me plenty of height over the stockers, but they do take some getting used to, they feel a little shorter, the brake peg is definitely a lot shorter so that takes some getting used to, and the shifter with its roller bearing is a unique feel that you'll also get used to after a weekend of rides.

I think they're outstanding, I did my first track day over the 3/4 July weekend, here's a vid!

http://www.vimeo.com/13218616
 
#10 ·
Yes I am clutching all upshifts (and downshifts), I think I need to adjust the linkage a little to bring the shifter down some because I feel I'm having to push up quite a bit to get it into gear. Very easily done with these sets though! I was also trying to decided whether or not to go GP shift, eventually I will get the Dynojet speed shifting system but for now I'm just staying conventional.

Here's another vid from the 16th at VIR FULL with NESBA, great time, and again, these sets were great.

http://www.vimeo.com/13443895
 
#12 ·
Your next track day you may want to try not using the clutch on your up-shifts. Apply some pressure to the shifter, then slightly roll off the throttle, the next gear will engage real nice and smooth and you can get right back into the throttle. I think that you will find that the bike doesn't unsettle quite as much as it provides for a quicker shift, reducing the weight shift that is caused by the larger reduction in torque applied to the drive-train when using the clutch.

The technique is very similar to the ignition cut used in racing technologies for fast shifts.
 
#13 ·
4->2, well I have heard of this but I thought it'd be tough on the gearbox, I've also heard of people clutchless downshifting but I'm not trying to tear up my bike or fear of a very expensive gearbox replacement just for a .01 second. I don't generally shift in turns with my current setup so I didn't think it was a big deal, is there any other benefit in doing this clutchless shift?

Jimis - VERY easy to adjust, one allen wrench on top, you loosen the pivot bolt, adjust, tighten bolt, DONE, would probably take 5 seconds per rear set.
 
#14 ·
The technique is not hard on the gearbox. In fact, properly executed it reduces wear on the clutch and clutch basket. Lets do a quick run down of how a constant mesh gear box works:

1. All gears are constantly engaged
2. There are two shafts (main shaft and lay shaft) each holding a gear, the difference between the gears gives the drive ratio.
3. Gears are engaged by a dog. A dog is located on the main shaft and is moved by the shifting mechanism. The dog selects the gear by mating into slots or grooves on the gear, locking that gear to the main shaft.
4. When you shift between gears, disengaging (pulling the clutch lever) the clutch removes the load from the transmission by separating the engine from the gear box. This enables the gear and the dog to synchronize their RPM's.
5. When the clutch is re-engaged (letting out the clutch lever) the friction material must then absorb the difference in energy between the engine and the drive train. This energy is converted to heat and wears out the clutch.

With a motorcycles sequential ratchet shifting mechanism, when you preload the shift linkage you are preparing the dogs to mate and synchronize with the next gear. When you slightly roll off the throttle you reduce the load on the engine and drive train. That slight reduction in load allows the dog and gear to fully synchronize and mate. Now there is no transfer of energy to the clutch and no additional wear to the entire clutch assembly. The dogs and gears are intended to synchronize so when properly executed, there is also no additional wear to the area of the gears and dogs that engage. The teeth of the gears will never see any additional wear as they are always meshed.

Here is a really simple diagram:
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#15 ·
Awesome write up, just put mine in yesterday. Had Gilles on the 06 and again on the 09. Wanted to try something different, but most other brands don't have the capability of mounting the Graves low mount bracket. I'm glad I got these, making adjustments are f*ckin' cake. :thumbup

**If you've got the Graves Low Mount, you might have to bore the holes out some on the bracket for it to be able to mount up to the Gilles rearset.**


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#16 ·
Nice toy, I had Gilles on my ex R1'07, 09 looks pretty the same except hangers. Be sure to set up rear master cylinder adapter (I didn't do that in fact when installed them on 07 and overheated my rear disc..) As for the GYTR gel seat it's awesome. I put it on my 09 - thicker, more comfortable and my a** seems to be cooler too ;) Cheers, M.
 
#20 ·
Thanks for the words of encouragement guys, I know prices have come down since I did this write up but even still, the install is the same! Great rearsets though, can't complain about anything (except the price), but I have a 2006 R1 now and I'm aiming to get a set for this one to!

I'm glad you all like the write up!
 
#21 ·
Wondering if you guys can help....

I have these rearsets on my 09 Gixxer, and installed no problem. I just got a set for my 09 R1, but i'm stuck figuring out the gear lever attachment.

The instructions are somewhat vague; which normally isnt a problem, but the pics accompanying the instructions dont appear to be an 09-12R1 so i'm looking at the pics and saying "my bike dont look like that"

The wording with the instruction doesnt help 'that' much either when looking at pics that dont seem to be the same model of bike.

Anyway, the instruction says:
-"loosen lower back motor attachment, fit in screw from right hand side"

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Which one of these bolts (above) is the 'back motor attachment'?

'A' - is where the current (Woodcraft) gearshift/lever was attached, but the gilles has an adapter (see next pic) that wont fit in the same spot using the same bolt from the woodcraft's. Also i cant take the bolt off and feed it from the right side (motor side point out), cus there's not enough clearance

here's the lever with the adapter:
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The rest of the rearset kit is perfect (like Gilles stuff usually is), i just cant figure out the lever.

(Oh if you notice some stuff missing, its cus my bike was a racebike and was stripped)

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
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I encountered a couple of issues with my vcr38gt rearsets.

First one which was a huge surprise is that one of the collars that sits between the brake cylinder holder and the cylinder itself doesn't actually fit inside the drilled hole of the rearset. Precision engineering? Not in my case...

The second is not so much an issue but a difference to OPs install. For me it was not possible to attach the top bolt of the heat shield to the right rearset and also attach the rearsets' top mount to the frame. The plastic heat shield does not allow this but according to the instruction manual you are only supposed to attach the lower bolt to the rearset.