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#1 ·
I've been on these boards for a while and I've been looking to purchase an R1 for about a year now. I've ridden bikes before and actually owned a 92 Katana :( before. However, it's been almost 4 years since I've ridden and I'll be taking the MSF course ASAP to get back into the feel of it. I live in the Atlanta area and for some strange reason It's hard to find a used R1 that's in good shape as I can't afford a new one. I just saw an '02 CBR 954 with about 9300 miles on it for $7995 and I talked the guy down to $7200 if I paid cash for it. I've been on these boards long enough to know that a 954 and an R1 are not beginner bikes by any means. The R1 is my first love but I also like the 954 a lot. So my question(s) is this, Which one of these bikes is the tamer of the two? I know they both will run like scalded dawgs and will lift the front wheel easily but styling aside (R1 looks better IMO) which is easier to ride?

Is this a good deal? The bike is flawless.

Thanks for any help and I understand that I will probably get roasted for the post.
 
#2 ·
One is not "tamer" than the other. That sounds like a lot for a used bike with that many miles on it. For about a thousand more you can get any of the new 600's; I'd save up a little more money and wait for one of them.
 
#3 ·
I love the R1, but I think Honda's outstanding quality rcord speaks for itself, so go with whichever one you feel is he best deal and you like
 
#5 ·
Both bikes are awesome. Both bikes will bite you too especially if the last bike you've ridden was a Katana. I haven't ridden the 954 but I've heard it handles better than the R1. Since you haven't ridden for awhile, I would recommend going with a new 600 like the '03 R6 or the '03 Honda 600RR. Both of these bikes have more than enough power for you. How do I know? I have the '01 R6 and it's a badass bike and an '02 R1. You will trade off on power but will gain better handling against the liter bikes. Another plus for the 600 is cheaper insurance. Hope that helps you a bit.

John
 
#7 ·
If your just getting back in then don't get teh new 600 or new anything because you'll lose more money when you get what you want later. 9000 not alot of miles and $7200 for a $10,000 bike is not bad. Reguardless of what bike you get start with a used one so you don't lose 2 grand when you sell it to get you want in the end.
 
#8 ·
chuck said:
I live in columbia south carolina and i have a nice 2000 r1 for sale. there are pics in the for sale section. if you cant find them i will emial them tonight. i am selling it for 7000 obo. it is all polsihed and lots of goodies on it. i can deliver it to you also.
I'd love to see some pics of it. You can email them to me at bigmixx@bellsouth.net.
 
#9 ·
Ondazul said:
Both bikes are awesome. Both bikes will bite you too especially if the last bike you've ridden was a Katana. I haven't ridden the 954 but I've heard it handles better than the R1. Since you haven't ridden for awhile, I would recommend going with a new 600 like the '03 R6 or the '03 Honda 600RR. Both of these bikes have more than enough power for you. How do I know? I have the '01 R6 and it's a badass bike and an '02 R1. You will trade off on power but will gain better handling against the liter bikes. Another plus for the 600 is cheaper insurance. Hope that helps you a bit.

John
I'd like to stay away from a new bike. Also, I know 600's have plenty of power for me and I would like to go that way but for some reason I think they'd be way too uncomfortable for me. I'm 6'1'' and weigh 320 lbs. :yesnod
 
#11 ·
Just to let you know the liter bikes of now-a-days are roughly the same size and weight as their liter bike brethren. I am 6'4 and weigh 225lbs and I actually had more room on my old 1997 FZR 600 than my 2003 R1 (but the R1 is loads more comfortable for some reason). Anyway, in regards to your question, $7200 for a 1 year old 954RR is a very good deal (even with 9000 miles on it). I would however have a mechanic thoroughly check over the bike and be sure to grill the owner about the maintenance (make sure he has records of service and oil changes) of the bike and whether the break in procedure was correctly followed. I would also suggest that you sit on the bike before buying it to make sure that you’re comfortable. I sat on a 954RR before buying my R1 and the seat on the Honda was one of the worst slabs of padding my butt has ever had the displeasure of coming in contact with. If you do buy the Honda I strongly suggest you immediately call Corbin to get that horrible stock seat replaced. Good luck in your decision.
 
#12 ·
Hondas are boring, everyone knows it! :lol
Thay are well made though to be fair.

Main thing is, ride em before your part with your hard earned.
They'll both blow you away, just don't go mad and see which feels more comfortable etc.
Upshot is the Honda is better made, The One is better looking and pulls more chicks/looks/admiring glances.

AND....when people ask what bike you've got and you say "an R1", they'll go "wow, that's one scary MTHFKR isn't it?", and you can say "yeh, but I can handle it!"
 
#13 ·
Cyberj10 said:
I sat on a 954RR before buying my R1 and the seat on the Honda was one of the worst slabs of padding my butt has ever had the displeasure of coming in contact with. If you do buy the Honda I strongly suggest you immediately call Corbin to get that horrible stock seat replaced. Good luck in your decision.
I've read somewhere before that the seat on the 954 was horrendous. I think I'll stop by my dealer today and check it out.
 
#14 ·
CADMAN said:
Hondas are boring, everyone knows it! :lol
Thay are well made though to be fair.

Main thing is, ride em before your part with your hard earned.
They'll both blow you away, just don't go mad and see which feels more comfortable etc.
Upshot is the Honda is better made, The One is better looking and pulls more chicks/looks/admiring glances.

AND....when people ask what bike you've got and you say "an R1", they'll go "wow, that's one scary MTHFKR isn't it?", and you can say "yeh, but I can handle it!"
Yeah, that's the main reason why I love the R1 so much. It just looks bad ass and I think that's the main reason why so many other people love 'em. I've always liked Hondas though....especially the 900RR. I used to think that was the best bike ever made....until the R1 came along :D
 
#19 ·
r1please, if you go to the for sale section and look for the header 00 bue r1 for sale with a frowning face that is mine. the pic will have a jaclet and helmet laying by it to make sure you got the right one. if you happen to see it let me know but i can send other pics also when i get home.
 
#20 ·
I've ridden both and REALLY don't like the 954. The seat, for starters on the 954 SUCKS. And when I say "SUCKS", I'm tempted to say that it's worse than the seat on the RC51. It's hard, squared off and totally uncomfortable. As for the handling, go with R1 before the 954. The 954 chatters A LOT. Feels totally unstable to me. And when the front isn't chattering, the back end gets loose. I would go so far as to say that the 954 is in my top 3 list of bikes to never own. Honda went wrong here if you ask me. And this is coming from a guy that was a HUGE Honda "Ride Red" fan for YEARS.

Devilman
 
#21 ·
The Devilman said:
I've ridden both and REALLY don't like the 954. The seat, for starters on the 954 SUCKS. And when I say "SUCKS", I'm tempted to say that it's worse than the seat on the RC51. It's hard, squared off and totally uncomfortable. As for the handling, go with R1 before the 954. The 954 chatters A LOT. Feels totally unstable to me. And when the front isn't chattering, the back end gets loose. I would go so far as to say that the 954 is in my top 3 list of bikes to never own. Honda went wrong here if you ask me. And this is coming from a guy that was a HUGE Honda "Ride Red" fan for YEARS.

Devilman
When you say "chatters" are you referring to head shake?
 
#24 ·
Because of the lightweight nature of the 954, ~370lbs dry weight, and short wheelbase, the '54 turns through corners almost equivalent to an R6. But then again, this flickability comes at a price: front end lightness thus promoting headshakes. But that's what steering dampeners are for (and what IMHO all litre class bikes should be equipped with stock). It's true the seat is pretty hard too, but unless you're commuting 400+ miles, you won't notice it at all. All in all, they're both great bikes...I'd be happy to answer any questions you have on the '54, while trying to keep ya R1 boyz in check! :bs
 
#26 ·
FirebladeRR said:
Because of the lightweight nature of the 954, ~370lbs dry weight, and short wheelbase, the '54 turns through corners almost equivalent to an R6. But then again, this flickability comes at a price: front end lightness thus promoting headshakes. But that's what steering dampeners are for (and what IMHO all litre class bikes should be equipped with stock). It's true the seat is pretty hard too, but unless you're commuting 400+ miles, you won't notice it at all. All in all, they're both great bikes...I'd be happy to answer any questions you have on the '54, while trying to keep ya R1 boyz in check! :bs
Does it headshake even when you're not riding aggressively?

Will my weight help reduce this given the fact that I'm probably way larger than most guys that ride? I'm 6'1'' 325 lbs.