I used Redline's Water Wetter once in my Porsche 944 Turbo S and it did not do anything. I wouldn't waste your time or money.:epimp

 

On Water Wetter

Product was pushed by Jim Wagners - Ex - Pontiac executive that was famous (or infamous) for providing jounralists with "prepped" cars for their reviews. Like a GTO that turned 13.77 "stock" in '67.

 

I used Redline's Water Wetter once in my Porsche 944 Turbo S and it did not do anything. I wouldn't waste your time or money.:epimp

water wetter is not premixed:fact engine ice though is!

 

Anybody use Liquid Performance??? It's been almost four years since the original queastion was asked. The guy who did my custom map said it works great. He told me not to waste my money on Engine Ice or Water Wetter. He said Liquid Performance drops temp 20 degrees. He's a nice guy, but I want to confirm it with somebody who has it in there bike. I don't want to go through the trouble of draining my coolant if I'm not going to notice the difference in temps.

 

Stick to Engine Ice if it freezes in the winter where you live.

 

:iamwithst:fact

 

Sorry, I'm not sure what you're trying to say..."if it freezes where you live"??? Are you trying to say Engine Ice works better and I will notice the coolant staying cooler and that Liquid Performance will freeze in Georgia???

Let's say I'm a wuss (maybe true, probably), and I don't ride my R1 when the temps are below 32 degrees, and my bike stays in a heated enviroment when I'm not riding it, meaning I'm not worried about the fluid cracking my engine if it were to freeze, or if I were to just use Liquid Performance when the temps were always above freezing (Summer)... will it keep my temps down consistently. I just want to know from somebody that has actually used the stuff if it works?

 

Works For Me

I lived in Vegas and now in Reno, so my proving grounds are pretty decent places for this kind of product.

Never used the stuff you're asking about. I use the engine ice product, The bike runs 5-10 degrees cooler for me.

Also the switch allows me to run something other than distilled water for the track day rule "no anti-freeze".

It's not that expensive, try it out. If not that satisified go back to regular coolant. Or just run it until you think you want or need to change it out.

My .02

 

Thanks for the info. Looking at some websites about Liquid Performance and they describe it as "coolant and antifreeze". Are they not telling the truth about it being antifreeze? It also says it is approved at AMA sanctioned events. But really, I'm more concerned about keeping the temps down on the street when I'm stuck at traffic lights/traffic.

 

Just did some more research. On another website the top dog at Engine Ice claims that the guys at Liquid Performance were distributors for Engine Ice. They then went out on their own to produce Liquid Performance, which he claims is almost identical to Engine Ice and also comes in the same type of container....interesting. Where does all the B.S. end with all these products. Maybe I'll just keep the Ole' Yamaha coolant in it. Has anybody fried an engine sticking with the factory coolant?

 

Dexcool or anything similar (like Amsoils coolant) do the same thing. No need to spend extra money, or special order "performance coolant". It doesn't do any more than using Dexcool.

 

Thanks. Looks like your twins are enjoying your money and your nice leather chair. What's next....the bike???

 

You know, I need to use a newer picture that one is almost 5 yrs old, but it's still good. Would you believe someone was throwing that chair away? There was nothing wrong with it, so my wife picked it up.

As for the bike the boy is showing a lot of interest in the bike, and has figured out how to start it. The girls like to hop on once in awhile. No rides yet, becuase I have no gear for them. If I can hang onto the bike, by the time their old enough the bike should be considered a classic.

 

As memory serves the big trick with the Engine Ice is that it doesn't contain glycol, which is not allowed at most track days. Water Wetter helps to keep the engine under control and is much better than running straight distilled water in your bike, but as Wheat pointed out it WILL freeze at 32 degrees since it has no anti-freeze properties. Engine Ice has an anti-freeze componant, other than glycol, so it can be kept in the bike year round unless your bike is going to be kept at 20 below. Sounds like "Liquid Performance" is an Engine Ice knock-off. Seeing how Engine Ice goes for $16 a bottle, (you and a buddy can split 3 bottles and do two bikes) I would go that route for an aftermarket coolant rather than cheaping out.

I haven't used the stuff (yet, it's on the "to do" list) but I've talked to plenty of people who swear by it, and that it will drop your operating temp about 10 degrees.

 

I think I'm going to use Engine Ice. Haven't heard anything negative (which is rare on this forum) about it, just heard that guys are happy with it. I'll let somebody else be the Liquid Performance test pilot.

There is an interesting article about it , but I can't get it to come back up if I just type in the address. www.gadgetjq.com/coolant_replacement It came up when I did a search for Engine Ice. Maybe you can get it to work.

the address has an underlined dash between coolant_replacement. I'm no computer wiz (obvious).

Just put "engine ice gadget" in Google search and it comes up as "coolant replacement tips" that's the one.

 

i have used engine ice for years now and it is great. the de-ionized water is nice and neutral for the radiator and engine.:thumbup

 

Thanks, going to get some this weekend.

 

For my money ill stick on Engine Ice .....

 

Where do ya'll suggest getting Engine Ice? I searched motomummy and tobefast and could not find anything. Which local stores have it in your towns?

 

Where do ya'll suggest getting Engine Ice? I searched motomummy and tobefast and could not find anything. Which local stores have it in your towns?

Any Cycle shop will have it.

 

i got water wetter from my local Advance Auto i believe

 

Most cycle shops have it. Not sure if the dealerships sell it. I found some at a KTM shop close to me. Engine Ice helps a little. It won't keep your temps below 200 degrees when your stuck at a long red light, but it appears to take it longer to get hot. Not a great big difference, but I would say it helps and worth the effort.

 

The other one to consider, but far more expensive is Evans NPG+ which is generally track legal (AMA and CCS), and works very well. Hard to find in a store, you might have to order a case. One bottle is enough for a bike. Lasts forever...

http://www.evanscooling.com

I personally have used Engine Ice in many different applications and I know it works.

Water Wetter is great if you must run water only. I have added it to regular coolant and seen some slight improvements in cooling, but its very hard to measure.

 

I've used water wetter and see about an 8 degree reduction in temps. I don't think Engine Ice can do better, but it dies provide anti-freeze. For me (Central Florida), that's not an issue since we don't get to freezing temps for more than a couple of hours...

Jim

 

+1 on the engine ice. Dropped it in both my bikes. Works great. I did notice they ran a little cooler.:rock