1. 07/08's make more
2. 04/05's are exactly the same..06's have a bit more power and a longer swingarm.

 

The variable intake system on the 07/08 gives it a little bit more torque in the mid range area and over all HP and torque are up slightly throughout the RPM range compared to 04-06 models. I don't think it's a huge difference, but a littla means a lot to some. I'm sure you could find a great buy on either model right now.

 

Like they said, part of the reason the 07-08 bikes have more low-end and midrange is because of the variable intake stacks.

In 07, the R1 also received a new, 4V cylinder head, as well as a slight bump in compression from 12.4-1 to 12.8-1, which is responsible for most of the gains.

However, these gains can be masked by the fluffy nature of the throttle response from the ride-by-wire throttle. Remember, you'll need to turn the twistgrip farther than you would on a prior model, just to get the same acceleration.

 

want torque?


buy an 02/03


it is a canyon beast with the low end torque it has

 

The 07-08 also has 11 lbs more weight then a 04-06. .

 

I've heard from a number of source that the 02 and 03 have the best all over torque ie no flat spots, pure smooth accel all the way.
Not quite your question I know, but if torquey R1 is what you're after...

 

Agree with declan88 about 02/03 model

 

Actually, I believe the 98-01 models were considered to be the R1s with the most torque.

Anyone have any figures to compare the various models, i.e. 98-01, 02-03, 04-06, 07-08?

 

01 = 79.7 ft lbs.


02 = 77.4 ft lbs.



just looked this up, was not aware that the 01 had more torque.


but it is heavier 01= 385.8 lbs


02 = 383.6 lbs


plus 02 is fuel injected.


03 is exactly the same as 02

 

Thanks for that info. By any chance do you have the specs for the 04-06 then the 07/08. Supposedly the 06 had a little more power than the 04/05 because of the airbox redesign.

 

forgot to add... they are rated for the same amount of horse power too. 150 to the rear





from what i have heard, the FI models were a little better.

 

2004 = 106.6 Nm 180 hp


2006 = 106.6 Nm 172.58 hp



2008 = 118.3 Nm 189 hp



I couldnt find ft. lbs for all three.


and keep in mind these are all way top end after the infamous "power dip" that came with Yamahas new motor

 

Thanks I haven't been able to find cinclusive info on torque. I know what my 06 R1 makes torque wise but I was wondering what the factory #s were.

Also your hp #s for the 04 and 06 may be off. Your Nm #s show the same but why would Yamaha take over 7hp out of the 06 to bring it back in 07. I've always seen that the 06 make 3hp more than the 04/05 even though they look the same. I've read the airboxes are different on the 06 model that's why the 06 tank holds less fuel than the 04/05 models. The tanks are interchangeable though. Also the 06 has a 3mm longer swingarm than the 04/05 but that has nothing to do w/ hp but it is also interchangeable w/ the 04/05 units. The 04-06 look the same but 06 has a couple so called "improvements." I think just a pinch of hp was one of them. I may be wrong but who knows.

 

All i know is mine feels night and day compared to my buddies 06 model. Mine feels like it will rip your arms off the sockets down low, but his screams more up top.

The '09 model should be a blend of both from what everyone is saying.

 

Mine feels like it will rip your arms off the sockets down low, but his screams more up top.

The way a bike *feels* can be VERY deceptive some times. The 07-08 R1s put the power down VERY smooth, longer swing arms, etc etc etc.

I have a T509 Speed Triple that "feels" like it rips your arms off compared to my 07 R1. Put them side by side and the R1 RUNS away from it at any rpm. But it sure doesn't "feel" faster at the low rpm.

 

04/06 and 07/08 BOTH of them is WEAK down low....u almost cant feel the extra power at low rpm of 07/08....i had both of them...
on my ex 08, i feel the bike react and pull slower than my 05 due to ride by wire system...
if u find torque and no track use, get 03....

 

I think 03 would be good for tracks... they have good torque all the way through the Tach. Just not as much up top.


it may not get going as fast in the strait away but it will pull a lot harder out of the turns.

 

be sweet to see for sure

 

I have just sold my '01 "torque monster" R1 and I would to buy a newest model but not 02/03 one...so I'm focused on 04/06 or 07/08 and for this reason I want to know which model from '04 to '08 have the best bottom-end...
04/06 is a more cheaper choice but I'm thinking, if I can afford it of course, to buy a brand new '08 R1 at discount prices Yamaha dealers make these days due to the incoming '09 model... what do you think about?

 

do it

 

Had an 04 and have an 07 now.. The 07 is faster by my seat of the pants opinion..Thing is learn to get the max out of whichever bike you get no matter what year range. Find your bikes sweet spot and you wont be disappointed.:fact

 

Your 07 would be faster to anybodies seat of the pants!!

 

The 02-03 R1 was said to have better low end Tq because of the more precise FI at smaller throttle openings. The 01 might have had slightly higher peak Tq but the 02-03 had a smoother , more linear Tq curve, higher peak Hp and a higher redline.

You can't have everything from 1 motor.

If you're shopping price....I'd get an 02-06 which covers 3 different models but fun regardless .

 

Completely agree. I've owned both the carbed and fuel injected R1, and to me the crispness of my '03 makes it "feel" like it's faster, cause the throttle response is so damn fast. But that's not saying my '01 was a slouch. Put an Ivan's jet kit in there, and it was damn near impossible to keep the front wheel down

 

Hit me up this week whenever you're not busy. I may take you up on that offer of riding it up and down your street. I'll bring the camera.

 

I am going to the MLK Center in the morning then I am free the rest of the day

 

W8 said it well

if i was in your shoes id start by looking for an 07 since its virtually the same as an 08....unless you want a specific color

honestly the 02-03s are a very torquey bike but also note that they run a 16 tooth front as opposed to the 04-08s with a 17tooth front

i say slap a -1 front sprocket and call it a day....look at the numbers the 04+ make more torque and hp

 

change the gearing...itll give it a more torque e feel. Im gonna go down 1 in the front and up 2 in the back on my 04 when I get the extra cash... It dosn't quite have the torque of my last bike (1000rr) but its got a lot more hp and higher revs. Its just the 1000rr would wheelie a lot easier. But 1st gear only went to 70 something on the honda I see 100 mph when my r1 hits red line in 1st gear. So I figure if I can get first gear redline to around 70 or 80 it should wheelie like the honda

 

I find with mine (the 02 with PC, K&N and full Akro) the torque is so immense from standing I cannot help but wheelie it almost every time if trying a fast start. I need to eat more pies, drink more beer, shag more... to keep the front down (or should that be up?) obviously. I've put BT016s on it in November and here in Britain, yes it's rainy, foggy, snowy (OK I don't ride in that) in Winter. The 016s just don't seem to heat up, back keeps skidding in straighht line braking or stepping out on bends. Its really beginning to shit me up. The 014s were lovely. I did once and only once try an 021 on my back tyre but it was really poor. Went straight back to the 014 and it was a relief. Any one else found the 016s to be dodgy for every day use? I understand the 016s use the 021 mid compound which might explain the crap grip if its true. Think they're ( the 016s) dangerous for a mixture of 10 mile city commuting before hitting the motorway. Maybe they're alright in bone dry and warm weather though.

declan88

 

I think you would be better with Pilot road 2's for winter riding. They will heat up quicker and have a deep tread pattern so are much better in the wet.

I run 016's on my 04 and love them, but I don't ride through the winter on them.

I had a mixture on my Gsxr 1K K4, I ran a pilot power 2ct on the front and a road 2 on the back. A great combination of grip and mileage. With the rear lasting around 4.5 to 5k of mainly back road twisties. I never had the back end step out on my once and the front was absolutely planted.

 

If you look at my specs list in October Bike of the Month 09, you'll see some ways to get fat torque from the 06. A full system, velocity stacks and a Power Commander are the best start.

 

My 04 seems to make the same low end power as the 07/08s :dunno

 

Hmmmm I wonder why :hammer: