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PeterC005

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Hi,

I live in Melbourne Australia and traded my 2003 R1 for a new 2007 (white/red) R1 on the weekend.

A couple of observations.

1) there is a massive flat spot between 2k and 4k in first gear. I took it back to the dealer today and was told it was because of the high first gear.

Reading the posts here it appears to be a mapping problem and I'll go back to the dealer again for a fix.

2) There seems to be a loud "ticking" noise that appears to come from the valve or timing gear. The dealer says this is because of the factory valve clearance settings.

Is this normal?

3) I love the new gear box. Much less crunching, much smoother. Also a much shorter "throw" to shift between gears.

4) The big pain is how noisy the exhaust is. I mentioned this to the dealer and was told that this is because the exhaust comes out out top and in the centre.

I suspect there is a leak from the exhaust pipe where it enters the cans.

Does anyone else have problems with a leaking 2007 exhaust?

I love my 2007 R1. It is my third R1 and definately the best.
Cheers
Peter
 
what are the specs of the bike sold there down under? US or EURO? coz almost all of the US specs has this throttle lag on 2nd gear at 5500 rpm and yamaha has already starting to replace the old ecu to new ones to cure that lag however its on an case to case basis. Have to euro specs and seem not to have the infamous 2nd gear lag. as to your pipes i guess you have to check it yourself if you have a leak. nice choice on that color schemes :sneaky. try looking for some threads I think there's a sticky for the throttle lag. lastly, if you have the US version well I guess just tell your dealer that you have the 2nd gear lag problem and they have to change your ecu with new maps just ask them to :riding inquire about this if they dnt know the lag. hope this helps.
 
Hey mate, Im from Melbourne aswell and have had my 07 for 4 months now.

1: What your experiencing between 2-4k rpm is the tall first gear, these bikes are gutless that low. Some pipes or a change in gearing will help that. The lag issue is just a US thing as our bikes use a different ecu.

2: The ticking noise is normal, it is a trademark of R1 of all years and yes it is particularly loud on mine and my mates 07.

3: It is a nice gearbox

4: Your dealer is pretty spot on about the noise, try having some race baffled pipes! :) im buying earplugs! lol
But I did notice that they have a slight leak at the base of the can where the silver cap is riveted on. I believe it due to the huge back pressure the stock pipe creates, after fitting my baffles and not touching the rear, the leak has stopped.

Which dealer in Melbourne did you buy it from??
 
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what are the specs of the bike sold there down under? US or EURO? coz almost all of the US specs has this throttle lag on 2nd gear at 5500 rpm and yamaha has already starting to replace the old ecu to new ones to cure that lag however its on an case to case basis. Have to euro specs and seem not to have the infamous 2nd gear lag. as to your pipes i guess you have to check it yourself if you have a leak. nice choice on that color schemes :sneaky. try looking for some threads I think there's a sticky for the throttle lag. lastly, if you have the US version well I guess just tell your dealer that you have the 2nd gear lag problem and they have to change your ecu with new maps just ask them to :riding inquire about this if they dnt know the lag. hope this helps.
Hi,

I'm not sure if the Australian bikes are Euro or USA configuration.

I can smell unburnt petrol coming out of the exhaust and suspect too much fuel is being pushed thru the EFI unit at low RPMs.

In the morning I'll start hassling the dealer for a new ECU map.

It's the first time I've ever needed to take an R1 back to the dealer for a warranty repair :-(

cheers
Peter
 
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Hey mate, Im from Melbourne aswell and have had my 07 for 4 months now.

1: What your experiencing between 2-4k rpm is the tall first gear, these bikes are gutless that low. Some pipes or a change in gearing will help that. The lag issue is just a US thing as our bikes use a different ecu.

2: The ticking noise is normal, it is a trademark of R1 of all years and yes it is particularly loud on mine and my mates 07.

3: It is a nice gearbox

4: Your dealer is pretty spot on about the noise, try having some race baffled pipes! :) im buying earplugs! lol
But I did notice that they have a slight leak at the base of the can where the silver cap is riveted on. I believe it due to the huge back pressure the stock pipe creates, after fitting my baffles and not touching the rear, the leak has stopped.

Which dealer in Melbourne did you buy it from??

Hi,

thanks for the tips.

I've bought my last few bikes from Yamaha City in Melbourne. The service and prices seem better than average.

Does your exhaust make "popping" sounds?

I'm thinking of replacing the front sprocket to lower the gearing. Do you have any suggestions?

Cheers
Peter
 
Hi,

thanks for the tips.

I've bought my last few bikes from Yamaha City in Melbourne. The service and prices seem better than average.

Does your exhaust make "popping" sounds?

I'm thinking of replacing the front sprocket to lower the gearing. Do you have any suggestions?

Cheers
Peter
Yamaha City do seem quite good, I got mine from there also, Frank is a great bloke.

My exhaust does make popping noises under deacceleration, as do all. Its almost like it backfires, its a lot louder with different pipes.

Id reccomend you try one tooth down on the front, and possibly two up on the rear, but be careful it turns into a wheelie monster, third gear power up!

-George
 
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My 07 R1 had just clocked a 1000 miles when it started to mis-fire and started to have that loud ticking noise. After 6 weeks in the shop they traced it down to a dropped valve in the head. The engine was rebuilt. It is now running as smooth as ever. I'm in the US so I also had the new ECU fitted.
 
Yamaha has my brand new R1 in their service department right now for the same problem. i had to call Yamaha Corp myself and they called the dealer to let them know that there were ecu and clutch issues on the 07's. i wish i would have known this before i spent $12,000, and to make it worse the suzuki dealer fked up the left fork on my 06 gixxer 600 so that has to go to the shop as well. my only 2 bikes are both awaiting maintanence.....so i'll be post whorin till i get em back
 
Even some mags have talked about the low end lull in power in the lower gears,, on top of the 5500 second gear lag,,, its not the tall first gear,, its the same first gear thats been there from 04,, and its not any taller than any of the other bikes out.. Actually i think the gixxer first gear is even a little taller,, i read in a mag somewhere they had all the speeds in gears listed,, and it had a higher top speed in first gear....
 
yes, yamaha's are known for the "ticking". i have a gsxr 1000 k6 and a new R1 and i love the R1. wish i would have gone with it to begin with. so for right now i am using the gsxr for a track bike and the R1 for the street.
 
wanna know what really sucks for me... i work at a yamaha-suzuki dealership and when i need something done to my bike, i get the run around and pretty much get blown off. i want to tell them about the ecu thing but it will take them forever to do anything about it. :mad:
 
New R1 owner here. Just a few questions about the problems yall are having with the 07. I think my biggest irritation about this bike is the fact that Yamaha neutered the low end power on this thing. Does anyone else have problems with the motor pinging while pulling off from a start? I always use name brand fuel (91 octane), and im not lugging the motor. I've also had it ping pulling out of tight corners in twisties. My other problem is the damn thing wont start when its cold. I have to manually crack the throttle to get it to catch. It seems the Japanese are getting a little laxed with their QC. :banghead:
 
New R1 owner here. Just a few questions about the problems yall are having with the 07. I think my biggest irritation about this bike is the fact that Yamaha neutered the low end power on this thing. Does anyone else have problems with the motor pinging while pulling off from a start? I always use name brand fuel (91 octane), and im not lugging the motor. I've also had it ping pulling out of tight corners in twisties. My other problem is the damn thing wont start when its cold. I have to manually crack the throttle to get it to catch. It seems the Japanese are getting a little laxed with their QC. :banghead:
Take it back and get it checked out. If it's pinging with good fuel sounds like a timing issue and is not good for the engine, could explain poor starting too.
 
I should of got another Honda............. My bike has a the ticking noise that everyone says its normal but besides that I have a really bad feeling my engine is gonna blow. The bike makes more the a ticking noise, in fact it has 2 noises one of them is that ticking noise that im ok with but the other is a grrr grrr grr comming from the gears I believe, this happens most of the time when I put 3rd of 4th gear. It also makes that grr grr noise after the bike being pushed a little bit hard. Also the low power really sucks on this bike. To be completely honest I only like the looks and the handling of this bike. Sorry for flaming the bike but im pissed, I only have 500 miles, I didnt buy a bike to have it in the dealer............
 
The noise that you think is the gears sounds like the noise I had in my 07 when it dropped a valve in one of the cylinders. They had to rebuild the motor at a 1000 miles. Run this past your dealer and Yamaha. The dealer had my bike for 6 weeks. Keep calling Yamaha and get them to call your dealer while you are on the line. I was at the point where I was talking to the owner of the dealer to either refund my money or give me another bike. They finally got permission from Yamaha to strip the motor. The bike seems to be running fine now, and I have run two track days with it. The low end lull does piss me off sometimes if I'm not focusing on revving it hard in the low gears. I have had to change my riding style a little with this bike. I have a buddy who put on a full system and a PC, and it has made the bike come alive. But we shouldn't have to spend 2 grand to wake up a $12,000 sport bike.
 
It seems all R1's have the ticking noise, which people on the forum say it's the fuel injectors, and is normal. But your noise seems to point to something else. As I said just keep hounding Yamaha and the dealer. It's a big pain in the ass, but it got me my bike back with a rebuilt motor.

Good luck and keep us posted.
 
I was just at the dealer and the noise is clearly from the clutch, it sounds like it has loose bolts inside the right engine cover. And that is just one of the problems. At this point the bike makes so much noise that im confused where its coming from. The dealer told me to ride it and see if it breaks. If I have them check it and they cant find nothing wrong they will have to charge me. I think im getting rid of the bike next year or as soon as Honda makes the 08 if I like it its a go. Thanks for the help anyways. Its really a shame that such a nice handling bike would have so many problems...........
Also im really bummed about customer service at Yamaha, I called them and explained to them the situation and they said its normal, ok fine but what got me thinking is that they dont even admit the ECU problem. I asked them if anybody has had problems with the ECU"s, clutch and engine and they said NO everything is has been fine, now thats some MAJOR BS
 
I think that's total BS from the dealer. Ride the bike until it breaks, great service. Did you tell Yamaha that? Yamaha told me that they haven't had any problems with ECU's. I was lucky that my dealer was willing to help, they even gave me a loaner bike for the time my bike was in the shop. I would see if you can take it to another dealer. The 07 R1 is not really doing Yamaha's rep any good.
 
Yamaha has always been know to have issues. Suzuki are very well built bikes, they don't look as good as yamahas but they well built. Hondas are built like a rock! Have you ever tried claim a warranty issue on a honda? Good luck! they built those bike so go, they will hardly take warranty issues...most likely if something is going bad...it's the rider's fault. Yamaha has been playing catch up with the competition and when you introduce new technologies like in the 07 R1, you are going to run into so issues. Let's just hope that the 08 R1 is the "all new and improved" marketing slogan that pretty much says, we f-ed up on the 07 and now have fixed the glitches on the 08
 
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