yes Akrapovic Slip-ons will sound awesome

 

I don't believe you can change the output sound of the v-twin sound.I'd go with the 08 only because im bias and the 04-08 range are the best looking. Ride to see which is better for your ability and comfortability.

 

what's wrong with the look of a '10 :dunno

 

No...you can't make a crossplane engine sound like an inline 4

 

+1 :chair:

repost, just for the hell of it... looks fast... most be something wrong with it.. :lol

 

Short answer ... No.. But u can make the 09+ sound unlike any bike you have ever heard. It's like music to my ears. How can u not like the way they look?

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Short answer ... No.. But u can make the 09+ sound unlike any bike you have ever heard. It's like music to my ears. How can u not like the way they look?
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Hey thanks pitbullkiz for your reply,
You know its really nice n lookin sexy but the problem is that having the F1 Sound thats in mind, because that sound of the crossplane is kind of similar to my 3 other bikes...

2010 Suzuki Boulevard 1800
2009 Honda CRF 450
2005 Yamaha YFZ 450

 

Ride a 08 and 09 plus to compare the bikes. I convicted my friend to get a 11 and after more then riding his bike I like the 08 better. The 08 is lighter and has more power output stock. With the same mods both bike has the same horse power. 09 plus the power comes on sooner in the rpm and the 07 to 08 power comes on around 7k to red line.

I love my 08 r1.


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after riding both I still like the 07-08 better, the 09 reflashed, exhaust, etc. and the 07-08 is still better...

the stock front end on the 09-12 soqi forks aren't even sprung for a 50 lb. man riding at a moderate pace :drunk: no just kidding not that bad, but they should have at least kept the KYB units from the 07-08, leaps better...

 

Get the one that's more appealing to your eyes. Only you will have to live with it and look at it!
Me I like the 08

 

07-08 different all the way, I like those models probably get one soon, but right now I have an 09

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I swear, I could stare at z064life and pitbillkiz's bikes all day, absolutely immaculate.


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12>08

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Lo0l thanks guys it seems il go on searching for a used 2008 model then since its better too as mentioned above here...

Thanks everyone for your helpful replies thank you all
I wanna start searching for a used one, its kindda hard to find it here in my Country.. Everyone has a Hayabusa no one sells R1s & R6s

 

Mmmmmmmm.....pure sex right there! I do love the look and screaming of the '08, almost bought one before I got my '12. After getting mine tuned right, I would never go back to that "other" engine LOL. Just something about that torque.......and sound!!!!!! (My bike at the last trip to the dyno)

 

Mmmmmmmm.....pure sex right there! I do love the look and screaming of the '08, almost bought one before I got my '12. After getting mine tuned right, I would never go back to that "other" engine LOL. Just something about that torque.......and sound!!!!!! (My bike at the last trip to the dyno) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUZN61WJNNg

I just seen ur vid is it 174 whp or crank hp slip on y pipe I can't see whp I have a full graves low mount flash ecu bmc air and that graves pipe makes more horses then my other r1 with the full akrapovic evo system

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I have both 07 10 Rossi and 12gp ed r1s its all about how u ride if ur a top end rider go with the 07-08 r1 if u don't do a lot of top speeds and like to curve ur bike go with the 09+ r1 and if u get a 09+ buy a graves low mount exhaust there is nothing out there that sounds like it except the m1 and if u buy the 07-08 rq go with the full akrapovic evo 2 ti for that real formula one sound

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Im gonna have to go with 08

 

My bike

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHLXy-3zkhI

2008 R1 Leo Vince factory Ti Evo II and Akro Y-Pipe - Flash-Tune WHP 151.79

My friends bike ( same dyno same day )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzH40z5KgBk

2011 R1 Leo Vince factory CF Evo II and Leo Vince Y-Pipe - Flash-Tune WHP 152.11


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^^i have those same mods with airbox mod and i have 165 from my 09. why your readings so low?

 

Each dyno is going to give a different number. That was just a comparison of the 2 bikes on a dyno same day, dyno and outside temp. reading. You should get a stock dyno run and then get a dyno run on the same dyno with the same conditions. You would get a good idea of how much HP and TQ you gained with your mods. Your top hp reading doesn’t mean anything when you are comparing a dyno run from someone else’s HP reading on a different dyno.

The reason that number is so high is because it was done on a car dyno. I wish we could get 175hp on a stock engine and pump gas, but that's not happening. I'm not discounting his tune or anything, there are just limits to each platform.

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Yup we are using both OTC maps on the 2 bikes. We are planning to get a dyno with the same tuner when I get my ais block off plates. I will have a base map run and atfer tune run with AF for both bikes. I don't expect the bikes to have that much of a difference in power but just where the power will come on and fall off.

 

Just saying, no other r1 has gotten those numbers without engine work. Burn-z has a better exhaust system, a full akra, instead of a 3/4, flashed ecu, etc, only made 155. Your bike isn't making twenty more HP. Your gains are what matters, not the output. I just think his dyno is mighty optimistic and i think many world agree. Otherwise you have the highest output crossplane with stock motor, and with your mods that's probably not likely. Just my .02. I'm really not trying to be negative, just realistic. I still think it's a great gain he made with you. The stack thing was a real surprise. Good innovation.

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Peak power wasnt our goal, a usuable powerband was. The majority of the gains were made from ignition timing. '12 timing is very conservative, so we used a '11 stock timing map to start with. I don't see how my numbers are so unrealistic when N4speed made 171whp over in the FT thread plus another member was in the 170's. As far as exhaust go, you MIGHT see a 1 or 2 hp difference between brands. Just because someone has an Akra system on their bike doesn't mean they are instantly going to make every ounce of hp available or entitled to make more hp than my bike with a cheaper system. Its all in the tuning not the exhaust. As long as you have a free flowing path for the gasses escape they dont care what the name plate says on the canister. Im not turning this thread in to another debate with you when other members in another thread are posting up #'s in the 170's also and they don't recieve near the criticism . Those are perfectly achievable #'s on a stock engine with bolt ons. In the end it comes down to the tuner, you get what you pay for.

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^^ thought everyone with 3/4 exhuast, pcv, reflash, airbox mod was making 165 :dunno

 

My wife caught me watching your video....accused me of cheatiung >D Very nice man

 

lol i do what i can:epimp

 

well 1.5" piping is 1.5" piping. you cant honestly sit here and say that its going to be any significant diffrence between a peiced together system and one thats bought as a full system. yes it will LOOK better and probably SOUND better but i doubt it will make any more or less horsepower. maybe a +/- 1hp diffrence but your going to have that between two diffrent companys or even two diffrent bikes.

 

I feel like when ever you try to get more power out of a NA motor it's significant.

 

^^i dont disagree but its not really relevent to the conversation.

if you think 1-2 hp is significant gain, then more power to you. guys like you will keep akro and these other high dollar guys in business. i cant see paying hundreds more for a supposed few hp. especially when my sub 1000 set up is making more power then guys who spend 2500 on just an exhaust and dont make the same power.

i'm glad your happy and glad your making gains. we just do it in diffrent ways that get diffrent results. keep building

 

With the higher price range most of the time you are paying for RD. RD aren't cheap. Alot of the no name brands are copy cats of the name branded stuff. Do i use some of them some time? Sure I do. I guess everyone is hung up on Dyno HP and TQ numbers and the matter of fact is they don't mean jack. It's the gain you are getting with the tune and mods. If you said hey my stock run was 155hp and the run atfer with same conditions with bolt on mods and tune was 180 hp ,then I would be like that is awesome. Most of the time you pay for what you get. Everyone should be happy with the HP number they got becuase every dyno is going to throw out a different number.

 

Comparing numbers from different dynos means nothing, as evidenced by this thread. Collectors, varying diameter piping and the completely different y pipe designs of a full system vs 3/4 will make difference, especially midrange, where it matters. I have a 3/4 system and while it's the best bang for buck, i acknowledge that a full system would be notably better if tuned accordingly.

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^^your right but at the end of the day for street guys like myself its just not worth the thousands more for only 1-2hp.

diffrent collector lengths and various ypipes will produce diffrences in the ranges where power is made. but even then the diffrences are small between all the diffrent options. its not like exhaustA makes it crazy in the midrange and exhaustB you only feel up top. its not black and white like that.

 

Many questions.... like if peak power WAS your goal, what would you and your monster pump gas R1 have gotten??

Also, if there's not a difference in MGFR's I'm assuming you don't understand flow velocity? A full system made that way from the get go compared to a full system made out of a y-pipe, some slip-ons, and later down the road some headers, those two different setups.... are going to make the same power?

This is getting entertaining! Please, continue!

^^^^^^-couldnt agree more.


As a matter of fact I do understand flow velocity. If you have 1.5" mandrel bent tubing with a smooth flow path(y-pipe & slip-on) then the gains between the different systems will not be very noticeable if at all regardless of brand name. A full system will give some benefits in certain areas of the powerband due to design/size of the collector and/or balance tubes. I just can't justify spending $2500+ on a system just to have a flashy brand name on my bike if the gains from it aren't that signifigant and I can use that $ for tuning to get pretty much the same gains. A slip-on is nothing more than a perforated piece of tubing wrapped in packing inside a flashy canister. The sound is tuned by the length of piping that is perforated. My cans are short, free flowing and LOUD! And as far as the headers, I'm satisfied with the stock ones. To each his own. Lets not even get into the debate between these and low mount systems. I totally agree that different dynos will produce different numbers and its wise to stick with one dyno when tuning, which I did. My first run was with stock mapping, y-pipe, race baffles and K&N filter made 159 whp which was pretty much on par with everone else. Every tuning sessions used the same load/dyno settings, so I'm totally confident in the numbers that were produced with my "monster pump gas R1" as you call it. I do agree some tuners "tweak" the dynos factors to show impressive numbers but that wasnt the case here. The tuner came higly recommended and is a pretty well known, reputable guy in the southeast US. A baseline pull was made(blue line @ 165hp), which again seems pretty much on par with everyone else with the same mods, then the final tune showing the total gains. Both runs were made on the same day under the same conditions. Midrange gains were made with just changing stack lift RPM not a fancy full system. There has been a couple other members that are putting up #'s in the 170's, those are perfectly obtainable goals on stock internals with a tuner that knows what he is doing.