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#1 ·
Im on the the fence of what I should buy and Id love your feedback 2015 r1 or the r1m. My understanding is that the difference is only the :

Color (all silver)
and electronic suspension.

Am I missing anything else.

Thanks guys
 
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#2 ·
Carbon fairings, hand polished aluminum tank and swingarm, data pack GPS system, and elictronic suspension. First off, good luck finding one. Second, get the regular R1, save you $6k in money, it's fully loaded! You won't be too afraid to drop/wreck the R1 as you will the R1M. Side fairings are $1900, front nose is $1700, front cowl is $1200, rear cowl without GPS is $899!!! Get the R1 and have cheaper insurance rates also. Don't get me wrong, love my R1M, but don't want any accidents or tip overs as they will be expensive to replace.... My $.02
 
#5 ·
I put money down on the one that's coming into my town, but yeah my concern was $5K more and insurance and monthly loan payment between the two.

If its only the suspension Im paying for then I guess the normal R1 is more appropriate for me. I go to the track 6-8 times a year so I do push it out there.
 
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#3 ·
Street or track?

The M has carbon fiber fairings and the ccu standard
The standard r1 can have the ccu purchased and if you track it, the fairings are getting removed anyway so then it is just the electronic suspension.
 
#6 ·
you can make always money, R1M brand new on ur garage...only now!
 
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If you CAN get the M thats a no brainer. Wait till you see the M in person and up close, You're getting a bargain for only $5k more. My buddy just got his this past Friday and its an insane bike. I'm all about the looks so the carbon fiber fairings and polished aluminum tank are worth it alone.
 
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#13 · (Edited)
I got M but after all that hyperventilating subsided and the brain started working again I am seriously considering selling it and getting a standard model. Its a track bike for me so the CF does nothing for me and the electronic suspension doesn't give a hard on either. It is not any better than well adjusted manual Ohlins I got on my Gixxer. In fact in the automatic modes on the track, judging by the tire wear pattern, is a total crap. What I do not like about them is the rebound in one leg and compression in the other. So all the suspension work is done by a one leg! Somehow that doesn't seat well with me. If it was any good they would have it Moto GP and that is one piece of technology that didn't come from there.
"Polished" tank and swing-arm? More like scratched in a regular pattern. Happily would swap for the all black painted versions.
The CCU is very handy but it an option on a standard model anyway. And as we have found out its not any limited edition, but just produced in smaller numbers. So in all the extra money spend on M is a waste. You can use it to get Ohlins cartridges for the front, rear shock (with a remote hydraulic adjuster!), the CCU and still have the money left over for the exhaust mod and few sets of tires.
 
#14 ·
being able to set manual modes for suspension in the CCU, different ones in different modes.....to try them during the same track session is sick!!!! worth the money!!! you can try a days worth of settings in two sessions!!!
 
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#23 · (Edited)
Originally Posted by mach2mack :
"I got the M best damn $25k I ever spent!!!! Would do it again in a heartbeat!"


AMEN to that !!!
I've had three previous R1's, three GSX-R1000's, a ZX-10R, an S1000RR, and still have a Ducati 1098R that I bought new in 2008. None of them compare in the combination of both handling & performance to the "M". My heart still belongs to the Ducati, but my brain is blown by the M.
 
#25 ·
I find some of the reasoning for not going with the M pretty interesting...

My favorite is the cost to replace parts... Listen.. Full coverage doesn't see the difference between a $300 fairing or a $3000 one... and if you can financially feel the difference to either A. not have good insurance or B. not handle the rates.. You shouldn't own a motorcycle, let alone a new one... Period. It's a want, not a need.

The M is EASILY worth the $6k increase... Yes.. The GPS is nice and the suspension is great. I came from the beemer with full Ohlins suspension and I had damn near $6k just in suspension work done and I personally think the Ohlins on my M feels better than my beemer. So after you get the standard R1 and drop $5k in suspension you could have paid $1000 more and had all carbon fairings and the CCU... not to mention and exclusive bike...

Here comes the fun part (and ultimately why I bought this bike)... when you go to sell that regular r1 in 3 years and struggle to get $8k for it and at BEST $2000 for your used suspension... youve now taken a hit of about $9k. Meanwhile, R1M's will be going for high teens with about a 3,4... maybe 5k hit. So which bike really cost more? Many people associate the cost of a bike when they bought it and not (expense - Resell = Cost). Which bike will be easier to sell? The M that will be a needle in a hay stack or the regular one that will be a dime a dozen?

Where did I learn this? My beemer... $17k bike... $7k in parts... Sold for $10k and I watched HP4 and Comp's sell all day long for $20k - and they made several thousand of those!
 
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#27 ·
You've raised some good points but consider buying the M for the track like I did. Since you can't get insurance for track, the cost of replacing these CF panels will hit the pocket hard. Do they make the bike any better? Only looking.
The ERS suspension so far has failed to impress me. Only a manual mode makes sense and personally I do not like that asymetric setup with rebound in one and compression in another leg.The hundred's times a second adjusting sounds impressive in marketing pamphlet and it might be of some benefit on the street when the surface changes etc. But for the track manual well set suspension is the go IMHO.
The CCU and the ability to change the settings is very handy, but still the option on a standard R1 for under 1K and the exclusivity you referring to is diminishing day by day. As it turns out it is not a limited edition and the M will be manufactured next year as well.
So on the balance, it is not that clear cut. The only positive might be that M will hold reselling value better. But this is still to be tested. In case of HP4 BMW stoped making them altogether.
 
#28 ·
A race team would not buy a m in stock form to race. Take a look at Wayne Maxwells bike and it might have started have started life as a m but it has different suspension and fairings and what ever else to make sure he gets podium spots.

As a value package I think Yamaha has priced them spot on, expensive enough to not be just rolling out the door and flood the market.

If you want to race a R1 then I reckon sell your m and buy the standard one and mod it up to how you want.

What ever you buy you have to be happy that is what you want and is good value for you.



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#31 ·
dochudson said:
A race team would not buy a m in stock form to race. Take a look at Wayne Maxwells bike and it might have started have started life as a m but it has different suspension and fairings and what ever else to make sure he gets podium spots.

As a value package I think Yamaha has priced them spot on, expensive enough to not be just rolling out the door and flood the market.

If you want to race a R1 then I reckon sell your m and buy the standard one and mod it up to how you want.

What ever you buy you have to be happy that is what you want and is good value for you.

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I know, I spoke with Wayne when he was in Adelaide few months ago. They were still building his bike then and he told me they chuck the suspension out and put cartridges in it and a normal (manual) rear shock. The race regulations for his class might have something to do with it though.
As to mine it would be hard to sell it as I have done a lot of mods to it now and don't really want to go a second round of it. I'll keep it, but yeah, if I had to do it again the regular version would be the go.

I have asked my dealer about the CCU. He offered me the lot for $1400 if I wanted. That seat cover is the CF version I think. The standard one cost about $250-300 and you can mount the GPS antenna inside.
 
#32 ·
" Only a manual mode makes sense and personally I do not like that asymetric setup with rebound in one and compression in another leg."

Shifu why do you still go on about this??? Waynes bike and everybike on the ASBK/ASC grid has this set up in the front of their bikes....
 
#34 ·
But its a criticism you have of the M model. But you say you want cartridges and if you do you better lose that preference. Its a pretty standard feature on bikes today.. Road and dirt.
 
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#38 ·
If the M came with an electronic version of the TTX25, the race teams might very well use it. The NIX30 is not Ohlins top technology.

Current forks use compression in one leg and rebound in the other because it is better technology! This design helps to minimize shock hysteresis.
 
#41 ·
Do you?


Please don't be ignorant, you don't have any facts to back your claim/statement.

The other R1's I've come across in person have been M's (3 of them, with 2 more for sale on the showroom floor). I have yet to see a black or red one in person or another blue.



Yamaha likely rolled out more M's than any other color based on their pdp program.


Yea, eventually there may be more of the blues or reds/blacks (as they become available and eventually get sold) but as of right now I'm pretty certain you'd have an easier time finding someone on this forum with an M than any other color. Why not do a poll if you need your facts?
 
#46 ·
Don't care if there are more M's around now if there are 1500 WORLD WIDE saying it's not exclusive or rare is a bit asinine don't you think? I get people telling me how rear and exclusive the hp4 is and there's like 6000 of those.
 
#52 · (Edited)
I highly doubt one of the most popular bikes in the world like the r1 won't be massed produced just give it a few months. There's 3 black ones at the dealer I bought my M from right now. Who cares about color? Oh the black ones rare you can't find one no big deal buy a blue one paint it black bam you have a black one. Can find a M well your screwed you can't just paint a regular one different and have the same. Even if black is rare and you have one so what not like it will hold value any better because of a color.
 
#53 ·
My dealer in Miami had 3 Black, one Red and a Blue one. They had no M's at all and wasn't scheduled to get one. I got the black one and showed up for a ride and a friend had bought a black one from a different dealer.

I was at Deal's Gap last week for 6 days and never saw another one, standard or M.
 
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#56 ·
I just hope I am not disappointed, I'm sure it's better than my current bike, but every time I go out and look in the garage my heart skips a beat and it still does it for me when I twist the loud handle. I have no reason at all to buy a new bike if using my old one as a reason.

Suzuki just did a fantastic job in '05 I guess.
 
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