Guess no one has done it, so I did some research and I found that a lot of riders have been using the Rotella T (the current one is T6) with very good results. The new T6 is even JASO-MA, which means it is good for motorcycle with wet clutches (like the R1). I just bought 3 gallons of this stuff from Walmart for $20/gallon. Going to do a change this weekend.

It's been like butter on my 2006 SV650.

 

Guess no one has done it, so I did some research and I found that a lot of riders have been using the Rotella T (the current one is T6) with very good results.

Next time, try that first.

....and you sound extremely familiar. :fact

 

I actually just did an oil change on my 09 with the T6 5w 40 this weekend...sadly its been crummy weather forecasted...so havent been able to take it out to give it a run

 

r1nstang, please let us know. I'll report in when I do my change.

 

Its in my 07, its great oil. Jug of that +stock filter, less then 30 bux.

 

I've been using rotella t6 in my 2006 SV650, and so far I'm loving it. At $20 a gallon it's $40 to $50 cheaper than comparable oil specifically made for motorcycles..... Currently I have spectro ($68 a gallon)

That is outrageous.....

Just remember, that the JASO MA is just a wet clutch rating. Rotella is not designed for short (2 weeks) or long term storage as some M/C oils are.

Some M/C oils contain Anti-Rust and corrossion Inhibitors that address the storage issues and also have specific anti-wear additives for the transmission.

At this time, I will stay with a PAO/Ester Based Synthetic over a Hydro-Cracked oil such as Rotella.

REGARDLESS of Brand, use a Motorcycle Specific oil with a JASO MA, better yet, MA 2 Rating, NEVER MB.

Oil, is the LifeBlood of your engine. The oil filter, is the Kidney that keeps it clean.

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Bob

 

What's outrageous? The price ($68/gallon... yeah I know, that is outrageous) or that I use it in my motorcycle? I had my doubts but after some research it seems a lot of people are using Rotella, and I mean A LOT. I'm sure motorcycle specific oils (spectro, amsoil, royal purple, etc) are great but it's hard to beat $20/gallon.

So far no complaints for my Sv650, I'll see how using it on my r1 turns out; though I know it'll be good because people from other forums (1000rr.net, 600rr.net, etc) have been using rotella with great success.

 

You just have to write in every thread to get your word in don't you..?

I've never seen a site sponsor troll before.

 

LOL guess Im not the only one to see thru the B/S.

Every oil out there makes the same claims. Salesmen learn how to hype up their claims.

 

brought my bike out for the first time in 3 days since the oil change and seat of the pants...the bike seems to idle much better...clutch operation is fluid and smooth. and honestly...it seems to get up more now. before i could crack the throttle open and the front end would get to the point of skimming the road.....even trying it wouldnt go higher... coming to work..had a few kids at a bus stop hootin and hollerin...gave it a little gas and front came up with no effort at all....it was at a slight uphill street...but still.

 

ill stick with RACE 4T. amsoil may have a decent product and competitive pricing but once u pay shipping its not that great lol. where i work i am connected with a mobil dealer so i pay 5.59 a quart for the 4T. totally happy with it. i also run the mobil 1 vtwin in my harley and its head and shoulders better than the screamin eagle syn3.

 

how is it compared to motul?

 

It's not.... Rotella is a Diesel oil and I am sure you are talkng about Motul's M/C oil...

Rotella is a good oil even though it has to start as almost a 50 wgt because it shears back.

Rotella meets JASO MA but that does not mean it is Motorcycle specific. It just means it meets minimum wet clutch performance standards whether used in a Motorcycle or a clutched gear box on a conveyor.

I recommend Rotella myself for instances where a break-in is necessary, such as on a machine shop engine or if someone wishes to do an early change on their M/C before the 600 mile change which is to get machining and casting debris out of the engine.

REGARDLESS of Brand, Synthetic or petroleum, use a Motorcycle Specific oil with a JASO MA, better yet, MA 2 Rating but never MB.

See the MC oil tests in our Sig and pick one of the Top 3 Finishers and you are sure to have a quality product that has the proper Ratings for your M/C.

Oil, is the LifeBlood of your engine. The oil filter, is the Kidney that keeps it clean.

The Best isn't cheap
Cheap isn't The Best

Bob

 

What are you guys looking for..? How long are you keeping your bikes? And how strict are you with maintenance?

There are guys out there putting 10's of thousands of miles on these bikes with this oil no problem. All of us put our bikes thru it paces in one way or another.. But the main thing to remember is, let the bike warm up, change the oil as often as needed, don't do stupid things to ring its guts out (but they are certainly built to take some abuse)

The simple fact is most of us only may keep the bike a few years, then its on to its next owner. Many end up wrecked long before the engine will ever be an issue, but the ones that do hang on to them and treat them right, get many years and miles out of them, some on the cheapest oil out there.

Buy whatever brand you want, if you sleep better at night buying into the hype of top of the line oil, go for it.

Its no different then anything in life, if a kia will get you where you need to go, but you need a BMW to feel better about it, do it.. Or if the kia suits you fine, who cares what others think... I know I'm new here, but I've never seen the likes of the oil debates on here, that go no where.

 

how about a free sample to persuade me away from mobil lol

 

Mmmmm.... Let me think about tis for a minute.






NO

Too many people must think I really want everyone to run AMSOIL...

I just want to see people run a good quality product designed for the application and a product that does what it is suppose to.

If you are running Mobil 1 Racing 4T, it is an excellent product and, I would suggest you stay with it if you are happy.

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Bob

 

Now he is calling Superior Rotella's addative pack "poor" LOL He just never stop talking down oils that are a better value than his product, A true Salesman...

The fact is Shell Rotella Oil stands up to the roughest conditions known, Im sure anything in their oil is not poor. Large trucks and heavy equipment are expected to run day in day out without down time, the turbos in these engines spin 100000 + RPM and are hotter than anthing a R1 will see.

 

SLAP... Give it a rest...

Quit the misleading statements and twisting mine so people can get a rest from both of us.

It took another member to point out that Rotella even says it is a Hydro Carbon base and Rotella cannot call itself 100% Synthetic. Only by law can it be called a Full Synthetic.

I have said TIME AND AGAIN: Rotella is a good oil, there are better oils out there than Rotella, not including AMSOIL, but it is a good oil. It is a "Price Point" oil that does a reasonable job. Even Shell has oil that outperforms it, for a Price !

Diesels are actually easy on oil except for fuel dilution and soot which is why most Over The Road trucks have a 44-56 qt sump on them. That is 11-14 Gallons of oil. Neither of those problems do you have to worry about in these bikes. Which is also why even AMSOIL Diesel oil is far less expensive than our M/C oils. The additives cost less.

Rotella has to start at almost a 50 wgt as it shears back to a lighter viscosity. This could be fixed with a better additive pack.. That is nothing but pure Fact and Common Sense. At the same time though, it would also raise the price significantly.

Move on...

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Bob

 

what does a quart of your 20w50 harley synthetic oil run?

 

i would like to use the rotella but just have a hard time changing something that works. all the truckers i know prefer the mobil delvac over the rotella t. better price AND more miles between rebuilds

 

fjorn....

I apologize. I got in a hurry...

The only AMSOIL filter I have is for the R-1. The other 2 I would have to do in a WIX 57933.

New PM on the way

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Bob

 

your owners manual says don't put diesel class oils in your bike---im gonna listen to the engineers.

 

oil threads FTW

 

Steve....

You are forgetting that pretty pic you use to post.. LOL

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Bob

 

Search button works great

http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=284183&highlight=rotella

Thread with a Rotella oil analysis.

 

I have run rotella in my R1's for the past couple years with no problems. I'm currently running it in both my 03, and 09.

 

As I always say, Rotella will work. Some people just like to use better products, just as I prefer a good steak over Hamburger and Lobster over Perch.

Although the Rotella you have run for years is nowhere near the same you buy today, it will give you reasonable service as long as you keep it changed.

REGARDLESS of Brand, Synthetic or petroleum, I recommend the use of a Motorcycle Specific oil with a JASO MA Rating, better yet, MA 2, but Never MB.

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Cheap isn't The Best

Bob

 

And, as shown before, the oil sheared from almost a 50 weight to almost a 20 wgt.

That is not a good thing especially on a High Revving piece of equipment.

That is why I would recommend looking at the M/C oil test in our Sig and picking one of the Top 3 oils.

They are all Motorcycle Specific and you are assured of having a good oil with the proper additives for a Motorcycle. All exceeding the MINIMUM Specs the OEM is forced to publish by law.

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Cheap isn't The Best

Bob

 

I just did my 600 mile service with Rotella T. It's all I ever use. I used it on my 08 ZX6R since 500 miles (FEB '08) and had 27k when I sold it last October ('09).

 

So what your saying is, this is the first time you have used This T-6 as it was reformulated Aug/Sept of last year.. LOL

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Bob

 

bob! you all over this thread too, with subject line ROTELLA

 

You Betcha !

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Cheap isn't The Best

Bob

 

Im sorry if its not a motorcycle specific oil i aint running it either! I know guys in the past that have run regular car oil and clutches slipped on them. To me its not worth saving a few bucks! In the end i doubt you are really saving!

 

Couldn't agree with you more.

Spend thousands on a bike, some of us spend thousands more on aftermarket parts and accessories to "make it our own" and then try to cheap out on what is Literally the LifeBlood of your engine. It just makes no sense at all.

REGARDLESS of Brand, Synthetic or petroleum, always run a Motorcycle Specific oil with a JASO MA, better yet, MA 2 Rating, but never MB.

The Best isn't cheap
Cheap isn't The Best

Bob

 

I dont see it anywhere but T6 is JASO MA approved

also let me say I would use amsoil if I had the money to spend. it is a better oil.

but alas the rep on another site said i would get some support for racing and it never panned out. So until an AMSOIL and I can get a deal for the race bike I dont see there product going in my vehicles or on an ad going up on my website or a sticker on the racebike

 

It has been all over this site and others along with pics of the label. Although it is a "Self Certification" from Shell, meaning it was never tested, it carries a JASO MA Rating.

But, let's be clear what the JASO MA means. It passes a Minimum wet clutch performance rating whether for a Motorcycle or a clutched gear box in a conveyor.

The cost of AMSOIL per mile, is comparable to Rotella. You pay a little more up front to go further. Then you have the other benefits as well.

As for the Stickers. It has nothing to do with AMSOIL as you are not sponsored by them and there is no way for anyone to buy Direct from AMSOIL. You are with a Dealer and if that Dealer is any where near my level and works a "hands on" business as I do, I can understand how things fall through the cracks, especially sending out a few stickers. It's life, we are all human.

To give an idea of what we do. By WE, I mean me personally and my fiancee and other AMSOIL Dealers who are serious about the business. Our days are usually 6:30 AM to around 11 PM.

I just did a Bike Rally that "started" Wed the 16th and "ended" last nite the 20th. Anyone that has not done any type of vending at a show has no idea what it takes. We aren't just magically there. It takes days of preperation, travel time, a day before hand to set up, get up at dawn to prepare for the day ahead and then be lucky to get back home or to the motel from a show like this by 9-9:30. Last nite, end of show is an hour earlier than previous days. Thank GOD I almost sold out or I would be there hauling stuff today too, but still, it was 10 PM before we hit a restaurant to have dinner.

Now we have to try and get inventory in and get ready for a small show next weekend.

Between that, we are online answering emails, PM's, returning calls, taking orders etc...

ANYONE that thinks being in business for yourself is easy, has no idea what they are talking about. Over 90% of businesses fail within the first 5 years. I have been selling AMSOIL Since 1984. I was lucky BUT, it also took a lot of hard work, money, long hours and cost several relationships.

It took a lot of sacrifice for me to get to be in the Top 1% of AMSOIL Dealers but, I am passionate about what I do.

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Cheap isn't The Best

Bob