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Schnitz Racing Front End Lowering Straps

Speed Link Racing R1 Lowering Link

 

Don't do it unless you are a dragracer or boulevard cruiser. Shave the seat and learn to deal with it.

 

How tall are you? I'm 5'6" and on tippy toes at the light.

 

5'6"
Just use one foot down at the stops.

 

Aren't the lowering straps/link mainly for draggin?? I dunno, but it seems as though it wouldn't be a good idea for everyday riding.

BD

 

how do the straps help dragging?

does it help eliminate the bounce wheelies?

 

What's wrong with lowering the bike a little bit? I bought a lowering link that'll let me drop the bike an inch, and I was going to lower the front by raising the fork tubes in the triple tree.

I've seen others on the board do it, too. As long as you keep the relative heights of front and rear the same, you gain a tiny bit of wheelbase and lose a little ground clearance, but does it really matter that much? I don't track the bike nor do I work too hard on losing my chicken strips.

 

Modern sportbikes are pourpose built. When you pack 130+ rwhp onto a short wheelbase you have to play a delicate balancing game to keep your handling at optimum levels. When raising (or dropping) the forks through the triple-tree as little as 5mm has a very noticeable effect on turn-in you can see where lowering it much more than about 12mm can begin to have detrimental effects.
This does not apply to drag bikes as much because even though they have radically lowered the bike (in an effort to reduce wheelies) they have also extended the wheelbase with a stretched swingarm. They also don't need to worry as much about cornering.
Believe me, I am pretty short and if I could lower the bike an inch without affecting the handling I would. I would just rather have as much control as possible when the bike is actually moving than worry about getting both feet flat at a stop.:yesnod

 

so u guys don't think i should lower my bike? I am 5'5 i use one leg at the stops, so lowering the bike isn't good for street riding?

 

so u guys don't think i should lower my bike? I am 5'5 i use one leg at the stops, so lowering the bike isn't good for street riding?

Nothing wrong with being on your tippy toes or one foot.

 

If you plan on leaning this bike, lowering it and losing ground clearance is not a good deal.....

 

There's that 'chicken strips' again, what the hell is that?

 

dude, I'm only 5'5" myself and at first it was wierd on tip toes, but u get used to it. don't mess with the bike's height. Don't ride with sneakers, ride with like timberland's or some boots that have a taller heel.

I have a pair of sidi vertebras and I am still getting used to riding with these. They aren't as tall as the timberlands. Dude, if I can do it so can u!

 

Just get use to it you will be ok

 

There is no need to go to all the trouble of lowering a bike (altering the geometry) just because someone has a shorter leg inseam length than motorcycle seat height. Once you straddle the bike, tip it the right and PLANT YOUR RIGHT FOOT FIRMLY ON THE GROUND WHILE USING THE INSIDE OF YOU RIGHT LEG AND BUTTOCK AGAINST THE SEAT OF THE BIKE. The front tire contact point, the rear tire contact point, and the right foot forms a triangle (strongest geometric figure to resist pressure), with all those points connected to inside the right leg/buttock at the seat (forming a pyramid, strongest 3 dimensional shape) which should support the bike. Most children use this technique when they begin to push off and peddle there bicycles (remember those days?). A motorcycle is just a bigger version, most of the same principles apply. My son was 11 y.o. and 5'2", and used the afore mentioned technique which worked great for him to support his XR200 dirt bike and '90 FZR600 street bike. He never dropped either of them. Once you get used to it and practice the technique, you can straddle (or ride) any motorcycle.

 

I'm only 5'3 and wear sidi's,I'm ok on me R1.Just put one foot down when you stop.

 

There's that 'chicken strips' again, what the hell is that?

They're the strips on the edges of the tires that are unworn. Unworn because you're too "chicken" to lean the bike over that far.

 

There is no need to go to all the trouble of lowering a bike (altering the geometry) just because someone has a shorter leg inseam length than motorcycle seat height. Once you straddle the bike, tip it the right and PLANT YOUR RIGHT FOOT FIRMLY ON THE GROUND WHILE USING THE INSIDE OF YOU RIGHT LEG AND BUTTOCK AGAINST THE SEAT OF THE BIKE. The front tire contact point, the rear tire contact point, and the right foot forms a triangle (strongest geometric figure to resist pressure), with all those points connected to inside the right leg/buttock at the seat (forming a pyramid, strongest 3 dimensional shape) which should support the bike. Most children use this technique when they begin to push off and peddle there bicycles (remember those days?). A motorcycle is just a bigger version, most of the same principles apply. My son was 11 y.o. and 5'2", and used the afore mentioned technique which worked great for him to support his XR200 dirt bike and '90 FZR600 street bike. He never dropped either of them. Once you get used to it and practice the technique, you can straddle (or ride) any motorcycle.

Try tellin that to my girl when she gets her r6. Idont want to change the geometry of the bike but dont know what else to do.

 

really, don't lower it just lean it over and plant one foot like the man said. I have a short buddy with a tall bike who has no problems whatsoever.

 

Cheers Corwyn! That is really appropriately named - hotdog coming your way! LOL

 

The left foot, not the right foot.

 

The left foot, not the right foot.

Eyespy- is it the left or the right, cause your rear brake at slow speed should be the rear brake 85% and front brake 15%?

Is that correct?

 

You should place the left foot down to come to a stop. Firstly because this permits correct rear brake usage, secondly because the usual road crown will facilite the left foot down for a rider having difficulty reaching.

 

Thanks you sir!!!!!

 

Hey what's up guys! I can barely tipy toe on my R1, is there a lowering kit for 99 R1's like honda's, anybody know how much and where to get some? and also install price's??
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Just my 2cents worth.My wife is 5'1. She has many years of both on the race track as well as the street riding. She likes riding her R-1 more than the R6 just because it has a lower seat to the ground #. Still the R-1 was to tall. We lowered the rear and the front evenly, reset the the springs for her weight. The bike handles great with no groud clearance proplems. By the way my super sport race bike R-1 ( stock racing class bike) has the rear lowered 10mm at the axle= flater swing arm angle, more trail.