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#1 ·
Hello Guy's N Girl's (to be PC)

I have recently purchased a Y reg 2002 R1

And I am looking for a steering damper

But when I am reading the specs on them they state for model 5JJ, 5VY??
What is this and how do I find out which model mine is? :dundun::dundun:

Thanks
 
#10 ·
Hi Mutley, cos I was building another bike using R1 forks and found out why the earlier R1s (4xv, 5jj) needed steering dampers as they have an offset in the yokes of 35mm, whereas the 5pw has an offset of 25mm, which makes the better handling bike without needing a damper. I've had my 5pw 4 four years and still have never needed a damper. Just check out ebay for 5pw yokes if you want to go this route and are easy enough to change over. HTH
 
#13 ·
Hi Mutley, cos I was building another bike using R1 forks and found out why the earlier R1s (4xv, 5jj) needed steering dampers as they have an offset in the yokes of 35mm, whereas the 5pw has an offset of 25mm, which makes the better handling bike without needing a damper. I've had my 5pw 4 four years and still have never needed a damper. Just check out ebay for 5pw yokes if you want to go this route and are easy enough to change over. HTH

Offset from were?:dundun:
Could you please explain:dundun:

Thanks
 
#14 ·
Ofset is the angle the forks travel through the Yolks. Its better on the 5PW R1. Thus more stable. If you buy 5PW Yolks you can take yours out and put replace, but unless you are mechanically minded that would be more than buying a damper.
Plus as we have found out you have a 01 R1 so go with the damper.

CAPR1 - I have had one moment really hard on the gas over a crest leaning slightly right, where i am glad i had a damper on, the whip when she touched down would of at least sent me across the road without it.
But i do agree they are more of a just in case than a necessity like some bikes, and i'd rather have a condom and not need it than not have one.
if you get me drift?
 
#15 ·
Dont want to seem as if Im correcting you r6gr8t1 but offset is the distance from the yoke stem centre to the fork tube centre when you look down on the top yoke, but you are right otherwise,the 5PW is the better handler because of it, later models went to 30mm with a factory fitted damper. Changing the yokes isnt to big a job really

Got some cracking roads all around us here r6gr8t1 but a few can be real bumpy lol, was chasing a mate on a TLS1000R and was struggling to stay with him on one particular road and nearly thought about a damper lol! This was along with another mate who had a 5JJ with no damper fitted and it was level pegging at the end of the road, where we all smoked about 4 **** one after the other lol! Most headshake probs can be dialled out with decent suspension setup though
 
#17 ·
OK gentlemen thanks for the info

I understand the measurements ETC
I am fairley mechancially minded
Changed engine on me mates Ninja 900 (wash my mouth out) in 4 hours, pushed in with knackered engine, removed fairing ETC swapped engine refitted fairing ETC rode it out.

I will do 2 things: Keep my eyes for a steering damper and or 5pw yokes.

Is mine a 5JJ model? Silver frame.

Regarding r6gr8t1 comments on suspension set up. I am near the other end of the scale my weight is 150 pounds!!!

Have you got any ideas on best suspension setup for me to try?
 
#19 ·
Try standard all round as these jap bikes were designed with light japs riding them.
Dont be drawn into this add a click here and there to stiffen things up making it more sport orientated either, all depends on riding style, road conditions or track. you should get a cable tie around 1 front fork push it to the top of the inner fork tube and ride, then check whow far your forks are travelling, you should be using all but 15mm, but at the same time you dont want it pogo-ing around.

Loads of setup guides on here - you'll be told by everyone to start ith static sag and then rider sag, look em up then you play with the compression and damping
 
#20 ·
Thanks for the guidance r6gr8t1

Tried standard settings front end feels pretty good, good feedback

Back feels like I am sat on a Pogo Stick, like to much preload on the spring/to strong a spring (rear shock looks standard fitment)