Welcome! The higher performance you ride, the better quality equipment you'll need. Have you done any track days yet?

 

This summer will be my first track day ever! Cant wate. And that makes sense speed/quality cost money.

 

all subjective on "best"

Brembo calipers will work better...can range from hundreds to the Race 130mm calipers retailing in at $3400 each. Why do it when our name is not Rossi, Spies, etc? Because we can :fact

 

Yes they are way better than OEM :fact
More responsive, better performing and way more feel.

 

I did it primarily for the quick release pad pin. See that little key-ring looking doodad? Hours of joy right there. I'll spend entire days off just pulling it out and putting it back in.

(GMT bike for example purposes only)

 

(GMT bike for example purposes only)

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nicely done

 

Costly but clearly pays off looking to buy a set soon got to rack up cash. Also need bike to work properly first, so at the moment guess that's the main priority.

Are they also good for street use or is it something to try to keep on track i cant say i dislike "Kawasaki ninja" but even there stock breaks and "Honda Cbr" breaks seem to work so much better maby I'm just crazy.

 

you're not going to need crazy brakes for your first trackday.

just clean your calipers, put in fresh pads and good fluid, and maybe some steel lines if you don't have them.

a ton of posing goes on. i saw plenty of guys going pretty goddamn quick with stock/mild brakes on track last wknd. :fact

 

Short answer yes.

 

It's mostly for looks. Stock r1 brakes are great out of the box


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Have you tried Brembo calipers and Braketech carbon ceramic rotors? :lol

 

Even if you aren't able to out ride stock brakes (or suspension for that matter) I feel the average rider still has something to gain from Brembo, braketech or Ohlins to name a few.

Up spec items relay more information to the rider and more accurate information. More information = more understanding, more understanding = you feeling more confidence is pushing that little bit more without exceeding your limits how ever high or low those limits may be.

That's my .02c

 

i think the suspension would make a bigger difference for feel especially with the 09+ really unhappy with the front forks going mushy under braking looking forward to my ohlins. however the 3400 dollar price tag with each brembo i dont think the average rider could justify the cost for the little bit of performance they would feel. most riders wouldn't push them hard enough to need them.

 

suspension does more on the 09+...the question wasn't, should 7K calipers be the 1st thing you do...and honestly there are MANY brembo options well below that price tag.

 

Just ride the darned thing. If the suspension feels off, get it adjusted for you. If it still feels like you need to do something with the shock, then look into your options. Same with the brakes. Pads, lines and new fluid won't brake the bank, but my 12k+ brakes looked almost new when I replaced them. The new Galfer lines look cool, but I don't honestly ride hard enough to notice the difference. If you do, then you should get all that stuff, or use it up for a track day , or gear.

BTW .....$400 will buy me around 3500+ miles of riding this summer.

 

Because they can afford it.

 

Brembo do look good...but these stop even better than they look...:vanish



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Here we go again, the track heros are coming out to tell all us posers why we don't need the upgrades we have because we only ride the street and shouldn't even have an r1 in the first place.

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I actually think the poser comment was us aimed at us slow fkers on the track with the upgrades :lol

 

we dont spend enough time in parking lots so we dont hear all the breaking news in bike technology:crash

 

Yeah that must be it.
I need a new sidestand it's so worn down.

 

:lol

 

I've heard somebody is making carbon side stands :dunno

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And I was commented about that just for the fact saying you can go plenty fast without them. Could they be faster with them? Absolutely :fact

 

hand me a suitcase full of money and you can take mine for a spin :lol I'll give the suitcase back when my bike comes back unharmed :lol

 

/discussion with mrailing's post :fact

And I'll have to save up for that suitcase, chris...I've got all this money, nothing to put it in for you and I'm afraid that the purchase of the suitcase will put me over budget :lol

 

It's all about what you want and the budget you have to attain that which you seek. (Eh, like what I did there? :lol )

The question was, do they make a difference, the answer is not as simple as yes or no. Each person is different and so is their riding style. The same upgrades done to 2 separate machines will cause 2 separate reactions from each rider. Some may feel the addition of these brake upgrades delivers less modulation than what they are used to thus causing a more uncomfortable feeling which results in slower lap times. The complete opposite could be said from the next rider.

We all have our opinion of where money is best spent, but we all have bikes to use our opinion on and shouldn't criticize others or try and steer them in a different direction.

 

You ride a wobbler, everything is an improvement :fact :vanish

 

Don't crash as much as me (or if you do, make sure you're an expert like me :lol) bring your bike along so I can putz around on it and you pay for the ticket to get here.....:dunno

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Alright...I'm going to chime in as well....
First I upgraded my suspension to Ohlins, then my wheels to BST's.
Then I worked my engine a bit, lost some weight off the bike, then I upgraded my brakes to Brembos.
Then I worked my engine a lot more, lost a heap more weight off the bike, and upgraded my rotors to CMC's.

None of the mods work in isolation...they all affect something else.
The more power, less weight, and better brakes I got, the lighter the input needed to go extremely fast.
I discovered this as I went along, and what I have now is a million miles from a stock 06, in it's response to my inputs.
It's weightless and instantaneous on the steering, throttle and brakes, and that is why I modified it from stock.
It's the complete package of modifications that have made my bike so incredibly responsive.
My mildly improved 01 feels like a day trip in a nursing home bus in comparison. :riding

 

Because adding expensive parts makes you a better rider. duh

 

Just about everything that isn't OEM is an improvement and beneficial. If you can afford to buy aftermarket parts, who gives a f*ck what the reason is or why. Do what you do.

Anyone who says "poser" is just envious. :fact

 

*Spikes*

 

Advancing the performance on a bike is a natural progression. I can't count on both hands how many times I've seen somebody at the track mention a comment about cleaning rotors or seeing people scotch bright there stock rotors or use a high compound sintered type compound on a worn rotor and watch there brakes chatter and upset the chassis coming into corners (probably cause they are warped or they ruined the "trueing" of the rotor).

Sure someone is going to be fast with stock rotors. I see R6 riders lap liter bikes on a daily basis. To say any riders won't benefit from a specialty company that builds spec rotors designed to handle multiple heating cycles and have multiple grind cycles is crazy though.

Compare the cost to stock rotors and unless you just want to find a used set on eBay that someone shined up (and probably warped), go get a good set when it's time to replace them.. :fact

Just my .02 cents, the whole "poser" cause you got great parts and the perception that some rider is better than another because they do more track days is a ridiculous post to make someone feel better about themselves. Don't take it the wrong way or think I'm bagging on anyone. We are all riders and the point of the post is will anyone get improved braking with aftermarket rotors and the answer is yes. Well selected rotors and a proper pad selection will get you MUCH better braking for any application. The only difference is a street guy will use a less heat rated pad then a racer would. This translates to a street guy will stop better and in all conditions (rain, humidity, heat, etc), or a track guy will have better all around braking characteristics from the start (no cycling) / less overshooting turns due to advanced braking functions over stock etc.

Anyways take it for what it's worth. I can walk around the corner and tell you that we use Braking rotors on our AMA Superbikes and Daytona Sportbikes and those same products are affordable compared to stock rotors, have exceptional heating characteristics and perform to the standards we look for at Graves Motorsports why wouldn't someone want to use them :fact

 

Agreed. I was just agreeing with the original post it was mentioned in that there are several people that have them that will never see their benefit. One member actually admitted it :lol But upgrading is def worth it if you are seeking a true benefit :fact

 

never say never

 

Compared to what we used to race back in the mid 90's, the OEM stuff today is way better than the full kit stuff back then. I honestly see no reason to upgrade the calipers on the current model to 07 R1. They're fantastic. The pads, rotors, lines and maybe the MC could use an upgrade for a track day hero.

 

And back in the mid 90's the Brembo stuff was closer to OEM 07 stuff and yet I bet the same people would have been arguing there was no need to upgrade, unless you were a poser of course. :hammer: :hammer: