Can anyone help a guy out??? I have a 99 R-1 and I got a great deal on a 01 wiring harness Had some probs with th original one now I'm haveing all kinds of hell with my bike....fan doesn't turn on temp does not register neutral light doesn't come on and the oil light is on what tha hell is going on I downloaded the manuals for the 99 and the 00 and they aren't helping too much the wire colors have changed my baby had been out of comission for almost a month now and I'm getting really frustrated with it any suggestions or help would be GREATLY appreciated:machinegu :machinegu :machinegu
big blue
You are not going to like my suggestion:
Get the proper wiring harness for your bike.
What you have just isn't going to work.
Scott
Get the proper wiring harness for your bike.
What you have just isn't going to work.
Scott
Here is an excerpt of an E-mail exchange I had with a gentlemen in Hawaii that wanted to put a 2000 instrument cluster in his 98 R1. As it turns out we got it all to work. In addition, to what you see below, I believe we also had to wire into the oil level switch circuit, a relay for ‘logic inversion’, so that we could get the oil level switch to work.
As Scott has already suggested, and I concur, installing a 2001 harness in your ‘99’ will be a project you will probably be sorry you ever started….sorry.
Anyway, here is the excerpt…..
Wayne,
This is the way I interpret what's going on.
1) The green/black wire coming from the 2000 dash is the 'fan relay activation line'.
2) The green/yellow wire coming from the 1998 dash to the Ignitor Unit is the 'bad fuel level sensor' wire.
3) From review of the specifications for the 1998~99 temperature sender and the 2000, these sensors are totally electrically/functionally incompatible. The 2000 sensor will not work with a 98~99 dash and a 2000 dash will not work with a 1998~99 sensor. It appears that Yamaha decided to incorporate a speed sensor tach diagnostic for model year 2000. This then 'pushed' the responsibility of fuel level sensor diagnostic on to the dash. This action then 'frees-up' a spot in the dash connector where the 'bad fuel level sensor' wire (green/yellow) went. Yamaha then said 'If we use the temperature sender information for both indication and fan control, and use this 'open slot' for 'fan relay activation', we can save the cost of a thermo-switch, installation time, and some radiator configuration work, all for the cost of one fan relay! As I see it, they saved some money at the cost of some system redundancy in a 'safety critical' system. By having a separate sender and switch, if one fails, you still have the other to either indicate temperature trouble or control temperature. With this system, if the sensor fails, you lose both. Not good in my mind (the bean counters will always win a fight against lawyers in the corporate world).
Anyway, here is my recommendation Wayne.
1) Use the 2000 temperature sender. If the 1998 wire harness is not compatible with the 2000 sender, modify the 98 harness (add mating connector for 2000 sender).
2) Use the 1998 temperature switch. This will of course plug right into the 1998 harness.
3) Snip the green/yellow wire on the bike 'main harness' side of the dash connector. Connect one end of a 100 ohm resistor to snipped green/yellow wire coming from the main bike harness and connect the other end to chassis ground.
Sam
As Scott has already suggested, and I concur, installing a 2001 harness in your ‘99’ will be a project you will probably be sorry you ever started….sorry.
Anyway, here is the excerpt…..
Wayne,
This is the way I interpret what's going on.
1) The green/black wire coming from the 2000 dash is the 'fan relay activation line'.
2) The green/yellow wire coming from the 1998 dash to the Ignitor Unit is the 'bad fuel level sensor' wire.
3) From review of the specifications for the 1998~99 temperature sender and the 2000, these sensors are totally electrically/functionally incompatible. The 2000 sensor will not work with a 98~99 dash and a 2000 dash will not work with a 1998~99 sensor. It appears that Yamaha decided to incorporate a speed sensor tach diagnostic for model year 2000. This then 'pushed' the responsibility of fuel level sensor diagnostic on to the dash. This action then 'frees-up' a spot in the dash connector where the 'bad fuel level sensor' wire (green/yellow) went. Yamaha then said 'If we use the temperature sender information for both indication and fan control, and use this 'open slot' for 'fan relay activation', we can save the cost of a thermo-switch, installation time, and some radiator configuration work, all for the cost of one fan relay! As I see it, they saved some money at the cost of some system redundancy in a 'safety critical' system. By having a separate sender and switch, if one fails, you still have the other to either indicate temperature trouble or control temperature. With this system, if the sensor fails, you lose both. Not good in my mind (the bean counters will always win a fight against lawyers in the corporate world).
Anyway, here is my recommendation Wayne.
1) Use the 2000 temperature sender. If the 1998 wire harness is not compatible with the 2000 sender, modify the 98 harness (add mating connector for 2000 sender).
2) Use the 1998 temperature switch. This will of course plug right into the 1998 harness.
3) Snip the green/yellow wire on the bike 'main harness' side of the dash connector. Connect one end of a 100 ohm resistor to snipped green/yellow wire coming from the main bike harness and connect the other end to chassis ground.
Sam
Sam one thing I forgot to mention is that I changed out all that stuff I have only the 99 sensors left and the left hand controls and the gauges left to change out.... If you say that 99 gauges won't work I guess I need to get some 00 or 01 gauges anyone? the radiator has been changed and I have the thermo sensor so all that has been done I'm still having hell annnny more useful knowledge is very appreciated thanks for all the info you guys are really helpful 
Well got my gauges in today and installed GREAT!!!!!!had to modify the stay a tiny bit but can't even tell also oil light and everything else is well......THANKS to all especially you Sam Farris and Twisted Logic your moral support was enough to see my way out of this tremendous catastrophy.........be back out on the road tomorrow THANKS again :rock :rock :hellobye :hellobye :hellobye
I'm glad I could help Big Blue!
Forums perform many functions, but I believe one of the key functions is to provide help to others with problems they are having. Quite often, the reason a person seeks out a forum is because they have a question or problem that needs an answer or solution.
I am glad to be a part of the process!:thumbup
Sam
Forums perform many functions, but I believe one of the key functions is to provide help to others with problems they are having. Quite often, the reason a person seeks out a forum is because they have a question or problem that needs an answer or solution.
I am glad to be a part of the process!:thumbup
Sam
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