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WTF!!!!!!!! any doctors in the house?

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#1 · (Edited)
So this is the second night in a row this has happened. I'm on my 7th glass of bacardi and coke and I start to get a red rash all over!???:confused: Chest, arms, everywhere? WTF is going on? Its not like its the first time this has happend, and I've been drinking Bacardi and Coke for years...

Kind of strange, just wondering if anyone has had this happen to them before. I wouldnt have noticed if it wasnt for my wife...
 
#5 ·
allergic reaction to :beer better stop until you get checked out by your doctor. I've seen this happen with bee stings but not :beer Still better safe than dead. Unless you are joking. Im no doc so what do I know/:beer
 
#9 ·
There are several routes of metabolism of ethyl alcohol in the body. The major pathways involve the liver and in particular the oxidation of ethyl alcohol by alcohol dehydrogenase (ADH).

Playing a role, particularly at higher alcohol concentrations is the oxidation of alcohol by the microsomal (small spherical vesicles) - cytochrome P450 system (MEOS) system. In addition to these routes, there is catalase-dependent oxidation of ethyl alcohol and oxidation of it by the stomach when it is first ingested. These latter two routes of metabolism are minor in comparison to the ADH and MEOS systems.

As mentioned above perhaps the major route of metabolism of ethyl alcohol is its oxidation in the liver catalyzed by the cytosolic enzyme alcohol dehydrogenase (ADH). It catalyzes the following reaction:

CH3CH2OH + NAD+ Ă› CH3CHO + NADH + H+.

This reaction produces acetaldehyde, a highly toxic substance. ADH has broad specificity, catalyzing various alcohols and steroids and catalyzing the oxidation of fatty acids. It also is not a solitary enzyme in that there are five different ADH genes, two of which ADH2 and ADH3 shown polymorphism (variations). Of importance is the fact that the ability of people to oxidize ethyl alcohol is dependent upon the genetic makeup of the individual. People with alleles (types) of ADH2 and ADH3 may protect those having these genes from developing alcoholism. These genes are common in the Asian population and convert alcohol to acetaldehyde more rapidly than normal. Because of this increased production of acetaldehyde, this toxic compound builds up and makes people who drink too much uncomfortable and ill. Therefore, these carries are discouraged from consuming large amount of alcohol.

A similar situation is found in the second step of ethanol metabolism, which is catalyzed by acetaldehyde dehydrogenase. This enzyme converts acetaldehyde to acetic acid, which is a normal metabolite in humans and hence is non toxic. The past use of Antabuse as a possible deterrent to drinking was based on the ability of Antabuse to inhibit the action of acetaldehyde dehydrogenase, thus slow down or stop the destruction of acetaldehyde. If one drank after taking Antabuse, the person got very ill. It turns out that certain individuals, again common in Asians, have a defective aldehyde dehydrogenase gene, ALDH2, in that it doesn’t not metabolize acetaldehyde as rapidly as normal. Thus, a person who drinks too much builds up acetaldehyde in their system and feels bad or is sick. This manifests in Asians with the defected ALDH gene as a facial flush as they drink. These responses discourage drinking, thus preventing the development of alcohol abuse, dependence, and alcoholism.

OK, Didn't you recently post that you are of Philipino decent? This may be part of what is going on. It's organic chem though and should happen a bit every time you drink if this is the case...

In all fairness I cut & paste the above from :

http://chemcases.com/alcohol/alc-06.htm

I'm a doc but this stuff is largely out of my field. we studied this a bit in Biochem, but I couldn't remember all the details....
 
#10 ·
yes I am Filipino, but otherwise....

WHAT THE **** DID YOU JUST SAY??????????????

I mean, this has only happened a few times.... Just dont understand it. OH well, it has gone after and hour, and now I'm off to the club.

Thanks for the info though, I'll re-read it tomorrow when I'm sober.

:rock
 
#13 ·
Some folks who have allergic symptoms when drinking may not be allergic to the alcohol itself but rather to one of its additives or other ingredients. Allergic reactions can be linked to yeast, used for filtering in some beers, starches, sugars, flavorings, colors and sulfites, which are used in some wines as preservatives. An actual allergic reaction to alcohol is uncommon.
 
#15 ·
yah just keep drinking, once drunk, all problems go away. it all becomes good, when you wake up, problem like the rash is still gone.

dont worry about it... ;)

nah, ill ask my cousin, he's a doctor for ER. let cha know what i can find
 
#18 ·
Ninedown said:
9 mile
What kind of doctor are you? A general practice doctor, or do you specialize in a certain part of the body?
I'm an Interventional radiologist. I've been on call way too much lately. Not riding as much as I should. My bike is up on stands in the garage. H2's moving to my VFR, 208GP's on the R1. Taking both to the track next saturday in Vegas. Garage full of bike love but tires are tedious...

Here's to you my brothers :beer ! Wish I could have one myself...
 
#22 ·
In Australia we call that a " ****** rash " -- that is when you consume too much pussy style alcohol , you start displaying gay type tendencies sugh as whingeing about rashes !! Try some testicle swelling beverages like Pimms or Pashion Pop .
 
#23 ·
KneeDragger77 said:
yes I am Filipino, but otherwise....

WHAT THE **** DID YOU JUST SAY??????????????

I mean, this has only happened a few times.... Just dont understand it. OH well, it has gone after and hour, and now I'm off to the club.

Thanks for the info though, I'll re-read it tomorrow when I'm sober.

:rock
...he said to re-hydrate your body more with water so that the chemical reactions never take place. ....it's sort of like diluting the acids.

I've had the same, ...drinking water once every few minutes during heavy alcohol intake prevents it. Instead of perspiring acid, you perspire H20 diluted acid.