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When you reach 270kmh (without G-pack) the ecu restriction will start reducing power, at 299kmh the engine is only giving around 145bhp. So if you have the G-pack from 270kmh upwards you accelerate more faster as the bike is giving full power. Fact!!!
So once you reach a certain speed, you start getting less and less power, yet can go faster and faster, in spite of the fact that the power required to achieve those speeds begins to climb almost exponentially about then? Amazing. :fact
 
i want to see proof.. ive done research..funny thing.. my 04 on dyno doing all gear run.. 6th didnt loose any power. wish i still had all gear chart to post. ive heard people like gpack and speak highly of it.. but no one.. not single one has proof on dyno what they do. not even company that sells them. but my bike didnt loose any power in 6th gear.
You know your stuff bro so thats why I know you havnt tried one of these things. Easier wheelies and gps #s dont lie. The guys in the 9/10s got around 4 mph . (+ Im sure youd be better for more mph in the 1/4). We put a handful of these things on peeps bikes and theyve all been happy. For the guys that run for peak numbers, if they dont have a Gpack or kit icu theyre not in the runnung. They literally fall on their face at peak mph while all the other guys are running away and peppering them. Youre also good for a torque bump in the lower gears. Im confident that the peeps putting them down havent tried them. Then theres the peeps that dont want to advertise their advantage. The only downside to these things is you loose your speedo but to some folks the performance gain is worth it. I dont know about the 07s because since moving to Tn from Fla I havnt found any racers yet but its comin.


http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145022&highlight=nikko+gpack




http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=177910&highlight=nikko

http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164527&highlight=nikko
 

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You know your stuff bro so thats why I know you havnt tried one of these things. Easier wheelies and gps #s dont lie. The guys in the 9/10s got around 4 mph . (+ Im sure youd be better for more mph in the 1/4). We put a handful of these things on peeps bikes and theyve all been happy. For the guys that run for peak numbers, if they dont have a Gpack or kit icu theyre not in the runnung. They literally fall on their face at peak mph while all the other guys are running away and peppering them. Youre also good for a torque bump in the lower gears. Im confident that the peeps putting them down havent tried them. Then theres the peeps that dont want to advertise their advantage. The only downside to these things is you loose your speedo but to some folks the performance gain is worth it. I dont know about the 07s because since moving to Tn from Fla I havnt found any racers yet but its comin.


http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145022&highlight=nikko+gpack




http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=177910&highlight=nikko

http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164527&highlight=nikko
the funny thing is , none of the R1's cdi knows the actual gear u are riding .there is no gear sensor on the R1!!!none!
if there was a gear position sensor on the R1 there would probably be a gear indicator also.
all that box does is removing the limiter , u can see that on your dyno graph also.
the way that this box is connected , it can also retard or advance the timing.thats what probably gives u a bit more power.
 
it's a great idea for the parts people :)

who needs a rev limiter? the rods and valves will let you know the limit of rpm anyway :)
 
Im just trying to help some peeps pick up some ponies. The Yamaha Gpack works in relation to speed calculations not gear position. 04-06 Yamaha Gpacks have nothing to do with the rev limiter except in top gear, which its just allowed to rev equail with the other gears. The curves I posted just show a power drop off and a early limiter as you reach peak. In effect a speed limiter. The limiter stays working in all gears. The Gpack makes it easier to hit the revlimiter in top gear.
Some folks may say who needs it. I say racers and anyone else that likes to wring out their bikes. It may be a minority but theyre there. Imagine coming around the banking in Daytona running even with the next guy on the same R1. Youre blasting down the banking with the bike screaming its guts out at peak and the guy that was next to you is easily pulling away. Now hes at the checkerd first or setting up for turn one well ahead of you. That sucks and for the price of the Gpack you might be running with him.
I say that because I dont race on the streets. :thumbup
These things work guys.
 
wow! someone should tell graves and other race teams that 8 hp is just a gimmick away.:vanish
 
wow! someone should tell graves and other race teams that 8 hp is just a gimmick away.:vanish
Hes way ahead of us all with his Kit ICU on some bikes and probably exotic Ign/fuel management systems on his superbikes. :crash :vanish :beer
 
well there is nothing too exotc going on. what exactly does it change? rev limit in 6th? ignition curve? fuel map?

you could change these things with DynoJet stuff, though at a higher cost. though with their stuff you get more options...
 
but if u look at dyno posted... its 6th gear run.. now gpack might improve tq.. and that would help in 6th... but look at rpm/mph..... gpack and one without... all stop pulling at same rpm/mph... so gpack doesnt eliminate any restrictions as far as mph...since there isnt one on R1 anyways... but thats first ive seen anything on one. if gpack changed mph... it would show on dyno in 6th gear. still on other bikes.. i agree.. specially 9/10thguys.. they ave extended ecu, tre and other things.but most are not on R1 are they??i wont pay for one.. since i know it wont work.. or thats my belief anyways.. but if i had one i would test it at track and post up... to me if they do what they say.. they would offer more proof... bikes with vids, time slips, and such. but im not there advertiser either. maybe they work, maybe they dont. and on some bikes, they may work. gotta remember.. people were paying $100 for TRE and its nothing more than .02 resistor..which is what ithink gpack is.
 
but if u look at dyno posted... its 6th gear run.. now gpack might improve tq.. and that would help in 6th... but look at rpm/mph..... gpack and one without... all stop pulling at same rpm/mph... so gpack doesnt eliminate any restrictions as far as mph...since there isnt one on R1 anyways... but thats first ive seen anything on one. if gpack changed mph... it would show on dyno in 6th gear. still on other bikes.. i agree.. specially 9/10thguys.. they ave extended ecu, tre and other things.but most are not on R1 are they??i wont pay for one.. since i know it wont work.. or thats my belief anyways.. but if i had one i would test it at track and post up... to me if they do what they say.. they would offer more proof... bikes with vids, time slips, and such. but im not there advertiser either. maybe they work, maybe they dont. and on some bikes, they may work. gotta remember.. people were paying $100 for TRE and its nothing more than .02 resistor..which is what ithink gpack is.
I made the runs into the revlimiter in sixth. You dont have aero drag on the dyno and in the real world it takes horsepower to pull tall gears. As the 5-10 horsepower drops off so does your mph and the rate of acceleration getting to it. You probably dont feel it cause Im guessing your gearing is short for the 1/4. Aeros dont affect you in 1/4 as much as the 9/10 or roadrace guys. In the 9/10s it was good for an average of 4mph. You know what that means. Unplug it and loose mph, you have a limited bike.
Im not trying to steer you wrong. Why would I. Hell im not even making any money on it. :dunno Its more like :banghead: trying to help get "Some" of your guys bikes the way IMO they should have come from the Factory.
and no. the Yammis arent competitive at peak speeds. The Zooks (busa, 1K, butt ugly zooks, yada yada) are because of their aeros and the TREs/GPacks Definitely work on them. Also the Gix tre/gpak work on gear input so Im guessing thats why they can hit more abruptly while with the yamaha speed input configurations need to be gradually weakened by peak mph.
 

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:lol Nice try.:moto::hammer:

I dont know without trying it but if you take some of this and rub it on the jewels, they get bigger and you will twist the throttle harder. :flex: :fact


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lol, nothing wrong with the ol' snake oil.... i heard it even fixes gixxers ugliness?:cool::sing::lol
 
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:bulsh:it's gonna take a little more than that.
Ok if you say so... Belive me man I tried the kawa on the italian hi way and saw 330kmh 5 times, then when the speedo reaches 299kmh it will start from 0 again and saw another 30kmh, so that's 330. It was an 05 ZX-10 with pcIII, ign module, full sys exha and a k&n filter, always standard gear ratio.
 
Ok if you say so... Belive me man I tried the kawa on the italian hi way and saw 330kmh 5 times, then when the speedo reaches 299kmh it will start from 0 again and saw another 30kmh, so that's 330. It was an 05 ZX-10 with pcIII, ign module, full sys exha and a k&n filter, always standard gear ratio.
Oh, well if the bike says 330 then you must have really done 330. I've seen over 300 when I had my 00 R1, and it was bone stock. I'm glad to know I broke the 300 mark then. :hammer:
 
Ok if you say so... Belive me man I tried the kawa on the italian hi way and saw 330kmh 5 times, then when the speedo reaches 299kmh it will start from 0 again and saw another 30kmh, so that's 330. It was an 05 ZX-10 with pcIII, ign module, full sys exha and a k&n filter, always standard gear ratio.
I think the problem here is that you are accepting what you see on the speedometer as fact.
I think you should take some of the advice posted here like;

blur1- get a speedo healer so you can accurately calibrate your speedometer.

jaystensec4cyl- use a gps to get accurate speed readings.
 
Does someone know if there's something to remove the 299kmh limiter on the 07? like the G-pack... as nikko is taking quite a while to develope G-pack for the 07.

Have you thought about turning on the pro-racer mod, that should get you to the speed you want. just do a search and you'll find how to turn it on:2bitchsla
 
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