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Buying advice, purchasing 00-01 R1 in 2020

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4.1K views 9 replies 5 participants last post by  TwentySixRed  
#1 ·
Hi, I am seriously considering buying the R1 2000-2001 model and wanted to seek some general advice/opinions, particularly whether it makes sense to purchase this in 2020.

For background, the rationale for buying this particular bike is simply because it's the bike of my dreams, when it came out I was a teenager and always wanted to have one. This would be the first 1000cc bike I purchase, my experience on bikes is limited to 125cc Aprilia RS (1996 sport production model). I am however a skilled urban driver (never been on track) both on 2 and 4 wheels as been driving recklessly for 15+ years including on mountain and country roads.

I am now looking to buy a 1000cc, don't want to go into the discussion as to whether a 600cc is better, and I am looking at the R1 2000-2001 model simply because of a desire to buy the bike I always wanted. An alternative would be the BMW S1000RR 2011 model (I like the looks of that). I don't have a problem with money so could get anything I want.

I will mostly use the bike for commute in central London (UK) and some occasional trips to France and Italy, including with pillion passenger. I may go to the occasional track day but not main focus.

Would really appreciate some opinions as to whether a R1 2000-2001 model (in very good condition with ca. 10k miles on clock) could be a good purchase in 2020 or if the technology (TC), handling and power have been considerably superseded by new bikes and particularly the S1000RR. Looking at stats appears yes, but will it actually make a difference for the use I anticipate? On some bendy roads say in the Alps, will it really make that big of a difference?

Any thoughts welcome.

Thanks.
 
#2 ·
Facts and figures don't really matter, if it's what you want, get it. Heck, if as you say, money isn't an issue buy the BMW as well ;)

Personally I would get something newer, with fuel injection (2002 was when the R1 introduced FI) and likely ABS (early ABS isn't great on a track, but is indispensable on the street, IMO)

Another thing to think about is the proposed ULEZ in London, you'd need a Euro3 compliant bike to be exempt from congestion charges. You'd need a much newer bike to meet those requirements.
 
#4 ·
You just shattered my dreams! I hadn't thought about Central London Ultra Low Emission Zone (ULEZ) and yes the 2000/2001 R1 does not comply with it. I always wanted this bike!

Well, that was a quick resolution to my dilemma... So for practical reasons I would have to get the s1000rr...

I could still get the R1 at a later stage, but unfortunately I currently live quite central and don't have a garage to store two bikes. I will actually park the BMW on the street at night, so will have to chain it up well, 3+ locks and chain.

Thanks.
 
#6 ·
Even the 2011 BMW S1000RR wouldn't be ULEZ exempt, you'd need to go to a 2015 or newer to be Euro3, as far as I know, possibly even newer, I think my 2017 S1000R (not RR) was the first model year of that bike to be Euro3 compliant.
 
#7 ·
My mind is still stuck in the old days. What world we live in now?!!

I have checked on the Transport for London website, the 2011 BMW S1000RR is Euro3 compliant. I understand form 2017 BMW models are instead Euro4. I would actually do some reading about this ULEZ because don't want to get a Euro3 bike just before London decides to switch the ULEZ to Euro4.

Incidentally I was reading an article today on Bloomberg stating UK could ban gasoline powered vehicles from 2030. I think they already have legislation for 2035. Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

What a mess
 
#9 ·
Good news, after some research I have spoken to a specialised mechanic in London that said they can make any bike 'compliant'. They test it and fit catalytic converters to make it become compliant. They said no loss in power or noise. Has anyone heard of something like this?