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Crossplane...Better or worse???

14K views 20 replies 15 participants last post by  korey  
#1 ·
Hey guys,

Im new to this forum and wanted to get some feedback on the new crossplane technology.

I sold my CBR 1000rr and pick up a new 2010 R1 in the off season.

maybe i shouldve done more research before making the purchase but whatever.

So ive been reading some reviews on the new R1s and im a bit... on the fence.

But i have the machine now and wont be riding for another few month when the summer rolls back around.

So if any1 has the crossplane R1, please shed some light on ur experience with the bike.

Thx
 
#2 ·
Great bike, I loved mine. Little soft up front, changed the springs for strait instead of progressive, flashed the ecu, couple trinkets and she ran fantastic on the roads.

Got a little hot on track, eventually fixed the problem, but u had no complaints about mine :thumbup
 
#4 ·
What year was the cbr? If its a new gen then you might be let down a bit. I haven't spent anytime on the cbr but from every review and comparison out there its pretty much top dog. Its lighter, smaller and faster than the r1 so it might take some getting used to. I've said this many times but the xplane sound will make all the weight worth it. Curious what made you decide to go r1?
 
#5 ·
Not to sound oblivious...but what is an ecu flash? how does it work? and what does it do??

I sold the CBR because it was racking up the mileage and selling the bike made the most sense financially for me at the time.

Then when it was time for me to buy another bike i was considering the 07-08 R1. when looking, i came across what seemed like a steal on the 10 R1. and the dealers in my area were very pro R1.

and on paper, the xplane seemed like an awesome machine.

But now thinkn back to the smoothness and torque of the cbr, im wondering if its because ive been honda for so long why im having mixed feelings.

but yeah... whats the deal with ecu flash???
 
#6 ·
Flashing the ecu essentially unlocks the bike. It will get rid of any throttle restrictions, and all other restrictions put in place to help pass EPA testing. There are a few companies that offer the service, but I recommend you get the flash tune module yourself and do it. There is plenty of support here on the forums to help you out. Google flashtune, and you'll find where to purchase the module.

My buddy has a 2012 CBR 1000rr, and honestly, I like my R1 a lot better. Great bike don't get me wrong, but the R1 is better fit for me. The torque on the R1 is noticeably better, and more "controlled" I'd say. The suspension needs to be setup for your weight and riding style. But, if you're just tooling around town, the stock suspension settings will more than likely work out fine for you.

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#8 ·
I went from an 06 1000rr to an 2011 r1. The r1 build quality is great and easy to work on but it's got minor bugs that makes me miss my 1000rr. The honda was as solid as a rock and did indeed pull harder down low. I've had the r1 for over a year now and I am still not fully comfortable with the bike.
 
#11 ·
As the others have said, definitely flash the ECU. It allows the bike to run the way it should, here are the details on ours:
http://www.superbikeunlimited.com/presta/yzf-r1/11-2009-2013-yamaha-yzf-r1-race-ecu-flash.html
We've got excellent reviews from R1-Forum guys and use the flash on both of our race bikes. It's a relatively new technology, but it truly transforms the motorcycle.

Aside from that, a 3/4 system, a sprocket change (-1 in the front is a good starting point) will give you very good performance. I too recommend at least changing the fork springs if you corner.
 
#14 ·
i mean what can i say about crossplanes.....i now have a 13s1000rr and i miss my crossplane ALOT the way the planer puts the powerdown is just awesome

A. like everyone else said get your ecu flashed (i used flashtune and it was $320 with a quickshifter)

b. 3/4exhaust and a fuelcontroller you should be 160+

c. loved my r1 more then this bmw because of the power delivery and the way i could customize my yamaha now whatever i do it always looks the same on this bike.
 
#15 ·
ITs great for track days and back road riding, But I am at that point that I HATE mine. No matter what I do the front end sucks, I am not dropping a ton of money on frame bracing (for racing since the frame flexes too much) It has put me at a brick wall, I can't go faster, and need to go faster to advance. I have too much invested to sell it, and now am married....there fore leaving me too broke to buy a new bike to race....







With all that said, the power is awesome, and I love the sound my Arrow system makes at WOT.... It's a love hate relationship
 
#19 ·
I've seen metal welded to Josh Hayes' bike close to where the steering connects for increased rigidity. Maybe someone from Graves has some tips for what to do to get more out of it, unless it's secret racing info.
 
#20 ·
Frame gussets have been around as long as racing has it's not too big a deal but there are time and costs involved and I'm sure that's what Tommy was complaining about. Fwiw TFS is very fast on the track and to his point I'd say was faster on his older r1.

As for the OP; for street riding the crossplane is great. It's a little jerky as far as throttle delivery in its stock ecu form. The way it makes power I enjoy more than just about every other inline 4 I've ridden. It's heavy but once you get comfortable (if you aren't already) with powering through the trailing edge of your turns the weight won't bug you... The bike in stock form with just a little suspension tuning drives well out of the corners for being so fat and the weight gives it a planted feel when you're delivering all that torque.

Enjoy and congrats on the purchase.