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Lowering 2009 r1

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2.3K views 11 replies 8 participants last post by  MadVlad  
#1 ·
Hi, Just bought my first r1 about a week ago ! Stepped up from my gsxr600 . I was looking to lower my this bike . Any pros and cons of lowering and how do I go about lowering it ?
 
#5 · (Edited)
09-14 does better with a higher rear and the forks flush with the top of the triple tree.....for the road race style riding.

Why are you trying to lower it? Just to flat foot with both feet?

If so....that is not smart.

I have never ridden a bike that I can flat foot with both feet.

If not, are you drag racing the bike? There is less support in general on that topic. Most folks here know road race setup here.
 
#6 ·
I lowered a bike a little but not an R1, because i'm 69 and my hip does not like going over passenger sedtion of saddle.
I would have lowered saddle but my knees creak already. Lower pegs or rearsets do not seem helpful.
I am using a slightly shorter shock and adjustable link.
Fork springs are soft for my weight. I'm about an inch lower. Motorcycle handles fine and no problems on the street.
but
I am a sometimes enthusiastic 69 but not like I was young or on a race track
One of the suspension companies (Traxxion comes to mind) can do it right only sacrificing cornering clearance.
On the cheap (like me) it depends how forgiving your geometry and parts are.

You might be able to find someone to fabricate a lower subframe for the saddle and relocate anything in the way under the seat. Just a possibility. Not like wheel travel uses the space under the rear fender. Have not seen it done though
Most lower trashes resale value though.
 
#7 ·
As stated above lowering isn’t the best idea if you want handling. One of my old cbr600rr was lowered pretty low with the dog bones. I liked the way the stance looked but riding it wasn’t that great. I raised it back up shortly after. My current r1 is stock height. Much better. My buddy has a gsxr 1000 that we’re currently working on. Previous owner had it slammed pretty low. He didn’t like how it handled either so I raised it back up a notch. Try it to see how you like it. Most of those dog bones are adjustable so you can always put it back on the highest setting if you’re not happy
 
#8 ·
As mentioned by many, don’t do it. If your excuse is you may be short well so am I. I’m only 5’6 and have never lowered a bike, you’ll get used to riding it eventually and you figure it out as you go. Messing with the geometry of a bike in a wrong manner is the worst thing you can do and it will make it unsafe to ride (unless drag racing as mentioned above) but for every day riding or roadracing it is definitely not recommended.
 
#9 ·
Does easing preload change height ?

I use my toes now and it's very easy. Can never place my heels on the ground. When I was a beginner it was scary.

Think about this: eliminating all preload raises the bike if the rider isn't on the bike, but lowers the bike MORE when rider is on the bike. No?
 
#10 ·
I’m no suspension guru but I would assume you don’t want excessive travel to help you adjust your ride height. Again it’s all about balance as we all know and I would imagine it would make the bike very unstable in case of any hard maneuvering needed or emergency braking. Shaving the seat and getting used to riding tip toe works just as well and yes agreed it is very scary at the beginning as you’re trying to get your sea legs but seat time will give you all the confidence you need and teach you a trick or two about a lot of areas of riding and also how you need to adjust to your bike. Hell Pedrosa and Marquez are significantly shorter than me and they still do it, why can’t we? Lol
 
#11 ·
Have you guys ever ridden a motocross bike? Or seen someone ride a motocross bike? You only put one foot down...The other stays on the peg.

At a stop light you only need one foot down:fact
 
#12 ·
Well dirt bikes are also significantly higher than street rides of course thus why at least for me nearly both cheeks are off on a dirt bike haha but yeah I honestly never bothered lowering my street bikes, kind of defeats the purpose of it all.

But to answer the second part of the main question to Baltazar, if you decide to lower it, all you would need is the lowering link and also adjust your front fork height at the triple. Also welcome to the R1 side man, I also went from a K7 600 and onto a 07 R1.