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Why is there no fuel gauge?

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I am actually pretty shocked after really thinking about it, this is one of the most technologically advanced sport bikes on the road, it's an electronics marvel, it has a completely digital full color LCD screen and no fuel monitoring of any kind aside from consumption which isn't really valuable information because the MPG changes second to second...

I don't know, it kind of cheapens the bike in a way for me, it's like "You did all of these amazing things but then left that out? Really?"

How does everyone else feel about this?
 
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I've had a R1 since 2000... no need for it. Just like above you have a trip meter and a fuel light. If you want a fuel gauge go buy a Hardley.
It's 2016, it's not the early 2000's anymore, standards have changed and you're pandering an appeal to tradition fallacy instead of embracing something which would clearly be superior.

The old ways =/= the better way, these are $15,000+ pieces of equipment in a completely technologically driven time and they lack something so rudimentary yet display how much brake pressure you're applying...
 
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I've had a R1 since 2000... no need for it. Just like above you have a trip meter and a fuel light. If you want a fuel gauge go buy a Hardley.
 
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I suspect it may have something to do with how the bikes are ridden, obviously a modern sportsbike is thrown around and leant over a lot more than a big cruiser so a simple level gauge like your average car has won't work as it is going to be confused by the bikes movements.

Moreover due to the fact that our fuel tanks have breathers on them they couldn't operate off pressure gauge either.

That's my understanding at least, happy to be corrected if I'm wrong though.

There really is no need for one as others have stated as you know when you filled the bike up and have an odometer to check how many miles. I agree it would have been nice to have on the road when I used to ride on the road, but certainly not necessary in my opinion.
 
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I don't know about your bikes, but my 2015 R1 has got a very well functioning fuel gauge.

Apart from having your display show average fuel consumption and current fuel consumption, I do hope you have seen that you can also show how many litres of fuel you have consumed...???
 
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They have never had one why would they start now. They do all they can to save weight using magnesium parts and aluminum bolts why would they then go add weight to put in a fuel gauge sensor that isn't going to be accurate anyways (if the bike is being ridden not by a little girl). Once the light comes on I get 30 miles of hard riding still. More if u baby it. Nothing a little tap on the side of the tank won't tell you. Although that fuel consumed that's a good one too it never clicked that could be used for that good catch.
 
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They have never had one why would they start now.
Bikes never came with a lot of the shit they have now lol Things change


I'm all for a fuel gauge too though. Yeah you can use the trip meter but it can be off huge depending on how hard you ride. I would get anywhere from 150-190 per tank. I know the tank can slosh around while cornering and give an inaccurate reading but are you really going to be looking at the fuel gauge when youre leaned over? Its a first world problem i know lol
 
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Why doesn't the bike have a built-in stereo and speakers? I cup holder is missing, as well.

Just kidding. A fuel gauge is really handy if you have multiple bikes. It's pretty handy to hop on and know at a glance if you have to ht the gas station first. I've even "picked" bikes based on what the fuel gauge reads.
 
#21 ·
I will agree that a fuel gauge would be nice. But like what was already said before, the R1 and R1M are track bikes first, and a street bikes second.

Usually you can feel the fuel in the tank before taking her out by swashing around the fuel in the tank and taking feedback from your knees. more fuel will make more of a after wave of fuel... I have learned to utilize this method over the years.. That with the fuel light that comes on, I have found that it has exactly 21.8 miles from the time that the light comes on, to the time that the engine will start sputtering just before it cuts off. Albeit I was probably riding in spirit form, so that could be higher if you dont ride it hard. But about 20 miles left on it on the highway at 70 MPH is pretty good distance find a gas station and fill her up...

last but not least, I have yet to try to actual consumption fuel readings, but I think this would be a good read versus anything else...
 
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I use a sun dial instead of a watch. Sloshing your tank around to gauge fuel on a modern day bike is silly no?

Guys we gotta pull over, i need to slosh my tank to see if i have enough fuel

Just filled up after a short run. Fuel consumed meter said I used 4.4 litres since last reset at last fuel stop. I could fill up with...exactly 4.4 litres...

In my opinion, the fuel consumed meter is superior to staring at the trip meter. One only need to look at the current fuel consumption meter to realize the fuel consumption is massively different between cruising and more inspired riding.

The fuel consumed meter knows this. The trip meter does not...
I always seen the fuel consumed but never paid any attention to it lol I'll have to check my manual tonight.
 
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Just filled up after a short run. Fuel consumed meter said I used 4.4 litres since last reset at last fuel stop. I could fill up with...exactly 4.4 litres...

In my opinion, the fuel consumed meter is superior to staring at the trip meter. One only need to look at the current fuel consumption meter to realize the fuel consumption is massively different between cruising and more inspired riding.

The fuel consumed meter knows this. The trip meter does not...
 
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#25 ·
Fuel guage is just convenient and doesn't take away from anything. You can use the fuel consumption but forget to reset it and you're sol so it goes back to convenience and asking for one and being told it's a race bike or go buy a HD is just ignorant and has zero counter argument attached to it.

This thing seems to wildly vary in fuel consumption so I've learned to reset everything at each fill up and I'm personally fine without one but I'd sure as shit use it if it were on the bike. People talked shit about the cruise control on the s1000rr but I used it all the time and loved it.
 
#31 ·
Im not aware of any sportbike(600,750 or 1000 with a fuel gauge. Its usually sport touring on down that do.
If it requires extra parts in the tank or pump assembly to work then thats good they dont have one. Sportbikes are supposed to be easy to work on(no unnecessary crap)
You guys must be new to motorcycles or the sportbikes in general. Theyve always been minimalistic. No creature comfort of any kind. They have lights to pass DOT regs so they can be sold for street use. Street use is far from their intended use and design.
Its literally the worst street bike you can buy.
 
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From what I have been told, it actually integrates the current fuel consumption, the average fuel consumption and the fuel consumed number from the fuel maps. It does not actually measure the flow of fuel. Which would mean the fuel consumption displayed is very accurate on a standard bike and a flashed bike, but probably not on a bike equipped with Power Commander or Bazzaz.
 
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#32 ·
My cbr600rr has a fuel gauge. However resetting the trip meter on the r1 is easier to see when i need to fill up than the bars on the Honda's fuel gauge.

I'm not sure why the r1 doesn't have one. I don't think it's because it's a race bike though as it has headlights, speedometer, kickstand, fender, plate holder , no laptimer etc
 
#33 ·
I have noticed when flashing with FTecu, the average fuel consumption resets to -.- after every flash. But the fuel consumed number and the trip meter keep the values they had before the flash.
 
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#34 ·
I am terrified of having a paradigm shift, one that makes me change the way I look at vehicle fuel consumption. It scares me. Like trying to wind surf with my scrotum over an indigenous tribe brandishing pointy sticks scares me. But, I have the perfect solution: I pop the gas tank top and screech like a pterodactyl. There's a 6db drop when sound hits surface, so judging from the time delay, I know where my gas level is. That's when I grab my trusty Sharpie from my assless chaps and mark the gas level on the gas tank. Works flawlessly.
 
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You're forcing him to give reasons why having one on a bike isn't some major act of adding new tech then call him out as whining when he tries to give examples and reasons... This is kind of hilarious. There isn't one on the R1, not a huge deal and neither is thinking that having one would be better. Instead of having a discussion and giving opinions we have arguments on it being a race bike, you have trip meters and the classic insult, "you must be new to motorcycles". It's like trying to have a discussion with a bunch of pissed off emo teenagers.
 
#49 ·
It sounds to me like you haven't been involved in many types of consumer oriented purchase discussions, it not being on the bike didn't influence my purchase, I'm not petty, but in relation to everything going on with this motorcycle in specific it seems quite silly that it doesn't have one.

Being a big gamer and avid poster on forums for that as well you need to realize that consumer discussions drive these markets, you don't think Yamaha probes product specific websites like this from time to time to get consumer feedback and information? I can guarantee they absolutely do, just like every other industry, the internet is their most valuable asset.

You can blow smoke all day trying to rationalize things and trying to turn this around on me, it's what short sighted individuals do, but the fact of the matter is a complaint or criticism not spoken out about 100% of the time is guaranteed to not be addressed in the future 100% of the time.
 
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